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June 09, 2003

Hip Hop & Design

Alright... I'm back from my road trip and I'll be kicking back into the weblogs full-swing this week. I guess I'll do at least one obligatory hip hop log, but for the rest of the week I'll be focusing on the recent phenomenon of the graphic designer as celebrity. Magazines such as Tokion, Anthem, Mass Appeal, WYWS, and others have shown that graphic designers have the potential to change the way society views and consumes both "high" and "low" art.

For the hip hop log, I will give a broad view of how the business side of hip hop has transitioned from the dominance of majors to the increasing decentralization provided by independent labels. Ultimately we will explore the impact this industry shift has had on hip hop's style demographics.

For the design stuff, first I will give an overview of the different schools of graphic design that are attempting to bring high art sophistication to the masses by amlagamating and integrating elements of graffiti, typography, vector graphics, digital manipulation, and other techniques often thought of as "low art" or simply commercial or corporate art.

Graffiti art has been an integral catalyst in this process and has instilled this movement with a political edge, which draws heavily upon punk ethics, hip hop attitude, and a basic cynicism with the propagandistic tendencies of graphic art. There have been many interviews recently with artists such as Shepard Fairey, Dave Kinsey, and others. We will explore their ideas and discuss the extent to which these artists support or contradict the philosophies they espouse.


Posted by Eric on June 9, 2003 11:29 PM
Comments

I am writing an SA on hip hop and how it has influenced design from evereyday clothing to graphics;

Could you please suggest any websites that you know of, or any books that are woth reading on this issue.

many thanks

Jay


Posted by: j keyz on October 8, 2003 07:28 AM

Lodown puts out some nice books. Also, 12oz Prophet and other magazines like Life Suck Die. Other than graf, there is no precise connection between hip hop and graphic design. Most good designers have a number of influences.


Posted by: Eric on October 12, 2003 01:04 AM

As far as clothing, I don't think you are gonna find specific connections with hip hop. Even Adidas is an overblown connection. I mean, a lot of hip hop people hype certain brands. But a brand is ultimately just a logo. And a bunch of logos makes not a movement.

At least, that's my opinion.


Posted by: eric on October 12, 2003 01:08 AM

design shouldnt be confined to certain styles. every time it did (Bauhaus, Art Deco, Pop Art, etc.), something came up to defy it. i never knew who said it, but someone somewhere said "for every movement, there is a countermovement". in my opinion, in terms of design, where at a point where we constantly recycle SHIET. old school letters, vintage images, minimalist layouts, simplified type and logos -- aside from the advancements that computers have brought us (vectors and bitmaps), a lot the stuff out right now has been done already, in one way or another. there is no movement. what? in terms of post david-carson-controlled-chaos-style-jocking, there was some anti-corporate stuff? that went on for a while. then came mock-corporate stuff. then came nolstalgia for past corporate stuff. we've past the peak. there is no movement. only culture vultures, taking bits and pieces from things that have already been done. we are now left with experiment new ways to mess with old things. like i said. no movement. sucks, i know. hopefully, i'm proven wrong soon. by the way, "mistakism" is just something that some upper-middle-class white dudes came up with to make themselves feel better about themselves as modern proprietors of some kind of new renaissance. pat yourselves on the back, folks.


Posted by: deloy is me on October 20, 2003 05:11 AM

deloy...

First of all, I invented Mistakism. And it is not an "upper-middle-class white dudes" thing... it is an UPPER CLASS WHITE DUDE THANG. Get your facts unstraight.

The only reason I ascribe to Mistakism is that no one need tell me how wrong I am about everything. I can just walk into a party with my Mistakism badge on and everybody will know it is pointless to argue with me. I admit that I am wrong about everything.

I don't see why a movement is necessary. There is nothing at stake. In my world, content is King. Personally, my favorite designs are words in straight lines.

Movements generally achieve their goals by obscuring something. Movements are always bossy and impersonal. Movements have leaders. Leaders have personal agendas. Movements based on personal agendas are wack. The Industrial Revolution and all this technology is a product of people's insecurities. The industrial movement seeks to obscure the fact that materialism is a hoax.

Designers love to talk about communication, but how much can you hope to accomplish in an aftform constrained by aesthetics and mathematical ratios? All strong coherent messages found in the design world are still based on words. The art of using words effectively is called "writing", not design.

All graphic design is advertising and/or propaganda. Same thing with music. Same thing with all art. Oh, how about figure skating and surfing competitions? Underneath pseudo objectivity is a fundamentally arbitrary set of standards.

It didn't come out of nowhere, it arose to satisfy a need. It caters to the need, and advertises to attract the needy.

But, yeah, your assessment of the graphic design industry seems pretty accurate.


Posted by: eric on October 20, 2003 02:51 PM

Dig this dog..TAG-END AND RAG-IN will affect the consiousness of the majority cult as long as the zerooo keep cuming in. And that's around twenty billion this year...it will be slap-in ass all around this world. I am trained in the classical fine arts but since I an't clock-in 11 million a painting, I'm coming home..need all the love i can get! will pay $100. for a book of hip hop fonts....get back to me on this.


Posted by: Kool Brez 1 on October 26, 2003 02:20 PM

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Posted by: eric on January 5, 2004 08:59 PM

DEPARTMENTS
00 DISCOGRAPHIES
M.F. Doom
Madlib
Mixmaster Mike
Dr. Oop aka Droop Capone

01 HIP HOP OUTLETS
Dance 360, back that ass up
Dance 360
VH1 And It Stopped, finally
VH1 Please Stop! Part 3-5
VH1 Don't Stop! Part 2
VH1 Don't Stop! Part One
VH1 And You Don't Stop
Wake Up Show Sells Out
Wake Up Show On MTV
Wake Up Show 2003
Friday Night Flavas
Hip Hop Babylon
keystyling inna keystyle
The Wake Up Show Is Back!
MTV Freestyle Battle
thanks to hiphopmusic.com

02 HIP HOP AUDIO
Hip Hop Album Reviews 2005
R.A. Rugged Man Interview
Hip Hop Charts 2004
Hip Hop Charts 2003
Naptron Tops The Charts

03 HIP HOP ISSUES
Ghostface Hates Jews
Ludacris Loves Bill O'Reilly
How to be un Rapero
Dizzee Rascal vs. Music
Defari disses Aesop Rock
Colombian Hip Hop
Simon Boswell Can't Rap
Remixes: Nas, MF Doom
Jin: Amazing Asian Rapper
Gay Hip Hop Exposed!
Wake Up Christian Rappers!
Hip Hop Special Education
Hip Hop Industry History
Hip Hop Blasphemy pt. 1

04 HIP HOP WRITERS
Jeff Chang, 5¢ per page
Alec Bemis is a Believer!
Hip-Hop Story by Heru Ptah
Jon Caramanica Can't Write
O-Dub Stole My Idea
In Defense Of The Critic
Mansbach Welcomes Pity
Hip Hop Holy Trinity 2003
ATTN: Adam Mansbach
Hip Hop Intelligentsia Is Me

05 MISC MUSIC
Viva Hispano-ragga!
Story of Jamaican Music
Lee Perry
The Blues & Modern Music
Hip Hop Is Reggae Music

06 CREATIVE WRITING
Broken Pencil: Semination
Indymedia Stole My Writing
Summer Book Break
Deodorant = Denial
Solipsist Soliloquy
Accutane Babes

07 SOCIAL DEVIANCE
I'm A Changed Man
Terrorist Hunting Permit
Race is an Illusion
All Hail Alia Sabur
Attack of the Psycho Bosses
Can I See Some ID?
Eat Your Blues Away
Abigail & Brittany Hensel
Pornography Brain Dev 101
Psychological Bling Bling
Crips vs Bloods: Turk Style
Shock The Monkey
Christians Outwork Atheists
Cannibalism As Art?

08 POLITICS
Hersh: Iran, Pentagon, CIA
Al Qaeda Is A Bogeyman
Making A Killing
Damn Generous Europeans
Karl Rove vs Machiavelli
Ward Connerly, Multiracist
Afghan Opium Production
Secret Service v. Bob Dylan
Iraq Deaths: Saddam vs. U.S.
Noam Chomsky On The Draft
The Nation: Election 2004
Harper's: Election 2004
Greg Palast Election 2004
U.S. Economics Lesson
Michael Ruppert on activism
Nothin' but a Visa Thang
Life According To Bush
George W. Bush
John Kerry
Tavis Smiley Presents...
Aristide Kidnapped?
Haiti: Is U.S. backing rebels?
Oppression Olympics
Aristide Should Stay in Haiti
Haiti Alternative News
Skull & Bones: Kerry, Bush
JFK Assassination & Media
Copyrights Are For Sissies
Eastern Western Philosophy
Affirmative Action Relaxin'
mp3 = end of mediocrity

09 BULLSHIT
Louis Farrakhan Loves Jews
Very Worst Scenario
NoRace.org
Myth of Che Guevara
Use The Force... Get $1M
Terrorism Futures Market
Strom Thurmond + butt sex
How The World Will End
The Earth Is Flat... Again

10 MOVIES & TV
Andrei Rublev
Life After Death Movies
Sci-fi Movie History
Most Extreme Elimination
20 Crazy People Movies
Baghdad Bob v. CNN
MOVIE: Office Space

11 ART & GRAPHICS
Hip Hop Graphic Design
Fuck Graphic Design
Hip Hop vs. Graphic Design
Hip Hop & Design

12 VEGETARIANISM
How to be a Vegetarian p.1

13 QUESTION OF THE DAY
Smart Serf / Rich Bastard
Executions on Pay-per-view

14 SEARCH TERM POETRY
vegetarian diet for dogs
psychosynthetic
extraterrestrial ancestry
funk and disorderly
eating bones
Knucklehead Zoo
paradox of purpose
dead celebrity status
happiness is fleeting

15 HIP HOP FREESTYLES
R.A. Rugged Man Freestyles
Herc, Caz, Busy, Melle
MC Supernatural & Scratch
Kanye West Freestyles

16 HIP HOP MIXES
Solid Steel Radio
DJ Nuts Cultura Copia Mix
J-Rocc Mixes
Rick James Tribute Mix

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