Hip Hop vs. Graphic Design
In anticipation of our upcoming foray into the world of graphic design, I thought I would drop some links to get you warmed up...
http://www.fatoe.com/
http://www.mearone.com/
http://kinseyvisual.com/
http://www.hvw8.com/
These artists blur the line between fine art, graffiti, and commercial art.
Posted by Eric on June 11, 2003 11:23 PM
fuck graffiti

graffiti rules!!!!!
FUCK U FAG ASS, just cos u can't do it!
U SKANKY LITTLE BITCH!!!!

Ayy s'up evbuddy?? I luv Graffiti.. n' I'm sumkinda good at i.. but still kinda toi soO if ny buddy can help me wid dis plz send me aiight??
dcmax@graffiti.net really appreciate it.. PEazZE!

hiphop yo buh graffiti is a sign of hiphop ok

Graffiti is da sign and a represent of being Hip Hop. It is also one of the elements of being a Hip Hop

fuck graffiti you bitches how is it a sign of hip hop stupied fucks lol you dont know shit it waz around before hip hop waz even thought off bitches it dont represent shit fuck you

hey bla i'll give you the fact that its not a sign of hip hop but its a long running portion of it and is also an art form. it takes a lot of skill and ability to draw many of the pieces especially when its done in just a few hours on a wall or a train with such detail.

I'm a design student and i'm designing an interactive gallery on graffiti in my local town. Are there any more graffiti / graphic design sites out there? If you know of any could you get back to me?
cheers

yo,
for real, graffiti is straight from the streets. I dont know if it exactly represents hip hop, but it definately helps express and promote the culture. It played a major role in the upcoming of hip hop. Keep it going, just dont get caught. LOLZ
Peace.
Jay Ray/southside houston tx

fuck da crips

its ALL art so maybe the guys with the attitude should remember that!?

There is Graffiti and then there is Street Art.

pretty moronic group of posts going on here.

...and you fit right in.

Fuck you all

Hip Hop is a modern renaissance...all ages of history have had their major sociological upheavals....marked by the "writing on the wall"....ever heard everything is in cycles? Although they weren’t called by the same names...graffiti has always been ....hip hop has always been. We who call ourselves of hip hop have always been...and so have those against us.

some tags jam and some suck fat ass. appriciate the balls or the design, but don't hate. graffiti is text and graphics and illustration and emotion all mixed together. chill boyz, damn!!!!!!!!!!!!
*detroit

Fuck desing!!-buch of lazy fucks,evthing is on the computer screen,from doing fonts,getting images,ect.that shit yall can get on th net,see graffiti is pure skillz & talent-you dont use a mouse do bomb a wall-GRAFITTI RULES,PERIOD!
TO all the graff heads that can send me advice & tips pls EMAIL:thabangm@omage.co.za
TMAC-south africa

Yeah, i got advice... free your mind. and then checkout fatoe.com. the key is to use digital AND analog.

Graffiti Rulz!!!

sup youll!! um im more of a hip hop chik but i really wanna no how to graffiti properly but it will b kool if u fellas can gimmi sum tips plez. HOLLA BAK CHURZ!!

my mate is a proppa graffiti artist u should see his works its the best u will eva see.

hi i,m a graphic design student from the netherlands and i,m just started a reasearch project abount the connection between graffiti and graphic design
do any of you know about some documentation on the subject?

there nowt wrong with graphic disign y is every one so quik to hate yer it uses computer and shit but it takes skill same as graff end of the day though graff from the heart and graphic desing two get paid!!!!

graffiti rules....go shuv your beef somewhere else

Eddiethink
Check out Kid Acne - Graffic Designer and MC.

Both sides of artists have great art alike but when you merge the two and stop trying to prove to one another who's best is the day you should see Fantastic artwork. As Hip Hop is or one of the biggest selling music genres small bedroom companies can blow into large corp juggernaughts....wooohooo

from what iv read your all a bunch of fairy's.People wanting to get into the scene should reconsider. Graffiti is not a hobby or somthing you can just stroll into or do on weekends, it is a lifestyle.
People in the scene are not nice people, most are drugg addicted petty criminals who have nothing to loose. I have lost too many friends to this scene to continue in it, two years ago the scene had me at rock bottom putting oxy in my arm. Dont even try kidding yourself that your in it for the "art". 95% of people are in the scene for fame. The cost for fame, having to watch your back constantly cause some crazy yahoo took you capping him seriously, the chance of real hard jail time, exposure to the drug and gang scene's. even the strongest willed people in this scene fall victem to its self destruction.
corus- aft, ctb, kom
Rest in power- harsh aft, narf sfk, dlam kom, tresp kom

Yo, jus 2 tha last guy his rite about on thing graffiti iz a lyfestyle but it can be put into graphic designs u just need tha brains 2 do it.
Reggy, Melbourne Australia

Growing skills, dat where's it at? Any aestheticly pleasing workz whether they be da graph live or movin some pixalated mind bending formula, if it aint love you feelin, then healin' it's essential, mental agrivation shows us what ya been through!
Love is truth all else is an illusion- but hey its all love!!!

yo yall niggas is wack..all of you shit out dicks...eat it up assholes

hey people,
so i'm also a design student and i'm writing a paper on the graffiti influence on graphic design. but i'm curious what you guys think about this idea. do you think that graffiti merging with design is trying to fill the need for human connection? or spontaneity? because graffiti is obviously illegal and filled with emotion, movement, and human elements? and graphic design right now is mechanical and computerized?
let me know.

design is not monolithic. like music, movies, or any other artform... there are a few mainstream styles, and a lot of little subgenres. graffiti is a subgenre of design. its influence on design has been one of introducing a little extra spontaneity, creative layering, and ruffness, if you know what i mean. graffiti does a lot with limited colors.
i think graffiti has been much more influential in an aesthetic way, rather than a social way. i mean, the corporations who use graffiti designs are trying to sell products. these companies aren't trying to promote the lifestyle of a graffiti artist. rather, they are simply coopting the superficial manifestations of graffiti.

also, graffiti puts an emphasis on one-of-a-kind fonts. graffiti takes the idea of a font-as-design to another level.

What do you mean "try to kid myself i'm in it for the art". Screw that, just because you didn't have the will power to not put needles in YOUR vein dont mean shit to me or the rest of the world. LIFE is HARD get used to it. Ive been into graff now for almost 13 years , and have come up nicely in the art world, I'm not from the hood, neither are my friends. I grew up across from the beach surfing, and i bust out shit that'll blow ur mind. So respect what it is ART. Graff is a hobby, its a lifestyle, its totally individual, unless your copying someones shit, and most of all its fun! just remember that, and respect that it is what YOU make it.

facts and background from 300 years of graffiti-research via our URL,12 000 pages

graff is tha fukn shit. westwest

IFT . WHAT!!!!!!. bring da beef niga

first things first u all are a bunch of faggot ass niggas yall got nothin on me i come from the ghetto biotch so get off my philly cheese steak NEGRO FO LIFE!!

Hey dude, nice site, that fattoe thing is pretty damn good illustration, srong focal point, bleh, south africa ftw.

Ayo.
Im fro Aotearoa.
I have been a Graffiti writer for the past 5 years.
I am also a Graphic Design Student.
Graffiti is about putting a concept onto a wall or a freestyled design off ya head.
I am doing alot of design projects like clothing for example where I blur the lines between design and graff.Its one thing to sell out to the industry, its another thing to open theyre eyes!
Bring graffiti art into the norm, stop the stereotyping, graff is expression!
Stop hating on designers, end the war on writing, and follow your heart.
Kia Kaha
Peace Yall

Graffiti
Nobody, not even me can explain the true meaning of Graffiti. It is different to every person, each with a different opinion. I am not one to say what Graffiti is, in fact nobody is. Graffiti will always be present, just like birth and death. Painting over it will only stop it temporarally, either its two days or two years. It will return.
For those who are doing research on Graffiti, here is a site packed full of it:
www.graffiti.org

lol

i think its genius that these guys fuck wiht the fine line of graf and deisgn thats the whole point of being hip hop breaking the lines ...
check out
www.brothamanstablished.com these guys are pretty badass ! motion grpahics

KRS1 says writing is one of the elements of hip hop, if you dont agree or know KRS1 your pprobably sitting ifront of a G4 wearing black. Im a designer too damn it (we all make mistakes) the difference is one designs got client and cash the other just you...one is art one is design, one has a target market, the other doesnt need marketing. Good designs a dime a dozen, all the rich kids are doin it now days. When I say Im a designer the response is always.COOOL! Art is now seen on white walls, nothin new comin out. the street is the only place we can speak to our own. takin back the streets from the media magnates .... getting a bit carried away but you get the drift.

Graffity must develope into graphic design ,architecture and product design.Than will be everywhere... of course my name

Ya'll who think graffiti is shit don't know what you're talking about. Graffiti and hip-hop are definitely related, though they do not equal each other. Perhaps, as "bla" so "gracefully" put it, graffiti may have been around before hip-hop came, but things EVOLVE over time. If you gits were mature enough you'd see that at this day in age, they have become two things grouped in the same category. Graffiti represents all things hip-hop; it is an element of hip-hop. It's beautiful and takes great skill to do it well. Graffiti is SICK and I have mad love for it. Those who view graffiti as vandalism are just denying the fact that perhaps hip-hop is emerging in this world and they cannot accept that graffiti is a true art form. If you think it's garbage, let's see you try to tag up a wall 20 by 50 feet and see how well you do.
Overall, I give props to all graffiti artists, including myself. It isn't something to represent the "ghetto"; it is part of the hip-hop culture, a culture emerging and making a breakthrough in everyday society.
And, (sorry if this isn't....dignified)FUCK ALL YA'LL WHO THINK YA'LL SO HARD AND STAY TALKING SHIT ABOUT GRAFFITI. Grow up and if it bothers you so much just ignore it; why would you even come on this site?

'sup kids,i'ma talk da f**k again to ya fatty brainz,it reall y'all talkin' bunchez of ya stuggy faggotz rite in dis spot that gat nothin' doin' wit grafitti-grafitti rep.rap& holy hip-hop culture,so waz y'ass talkin' about punk!!!so wheneva u gat ya mouth flippin' just like a b!tch cunt rollin' in a d!ck,just get it inn ya mindz that ya godfather is over here watchin' y'all son of a b!tch----
grafitti is just the language of hip-hop.
pizz ya dick out n suck ya overnite cunk b!tches.
Detriot 101
COONTOWN.REP

Those website is kul!!

What it do, I know some of yall are pretty good with the graffti and graphic art, well I need a banner for my website can any of yall do that?

FUK GRAFFFI !!! GOOOO FUKKINN HIPHOP

KEANS is one of the best taggers in sydney!!!! his peices are all burners and he is becoming a king at throw xooxoxoxoxoxoxox

These guys are amazing, graff is all about design and typography, too bad its illegal...( people have to clean it up). they should make a free graff zone in some abandoned old city where you can bomb all you want at your own risk.

daamn, these sites are sick. thnx!
