Gay Hip Hop Exposed!
Let me officially start the countdown to when the first gay hip hop artist comes out of the closet. Are you a famous gay hip hop artist? Send me an email and I will tell the world your story. To find out if I am hip hop's most famous gay writer... keep reading.
This past Sunday, the New York Times Magazine ran a very illuminating article on the "Down Low" subculture. Basically, the jist of the article is that there are a bunch of black guys out there who take a thug approach to being gay. These "DL" guys look like your typical extra in a David Banner video. They have girlfriends, don't talk with lisps, and avoid tight-fitting clothes. But note the enthusiasm when "Baby Got Back" comes on.
NY Times "Double Lives on the Down Low"
"Rejecting a gay culture they perceive as white and effeminate, many black men have settled on a new identity, with its own vocabulary and customs and its own name: Down Low. There have always been men -- black and white -- who have had secret sexual lives with men. But the creation of an organized, underground subculture largely made up of black men who otherwise live straight lives is a phenomenon of the last decade. Many of the men at Flex tonight -- and many of the black men I met these past months in Cleveland, Atlanta, Florida, New York and Boston -- are on the Down Low, or on the DL, as they more often call it. Most date or marry women and engage sexually with men they meet only in anonymous settings like bathhouses and parks or through the Internet. Many of these men are young and from the inner city, where they live in a hypermasculine ''thug'' culture. Other DL men form romantic relationships with men and may even be peripheral participants in mainstream gay culture, all unknown to their colleagues and families. Most DL men identify themselves not as gay or bisexual but first and foremost as black. To them, as to many blacks, that equates to being inherently masculine."
And here is a link to an article at gayhiphop.com. Gayhiphop.com is somewhat deceptive. Like most people, I was hoping to find out whether Redman, Method Man, Keith Murray, and Eminem are actually gay. Alas, no one has been brave enough to come out with it.
gayhiphop.com: "Rap Is Gay"
"Am I gay?" you ask.
No. But hip hop is.
Posted by Eric on August 6, 2003 11:20 PM
As an HIV/STD educator,I have had the benefit of meeting many men both Black and White who while in the grips of active addiction have prostituted themselves in order to obtain drugs,shelter,food and money.Are these men gay or bisexual?Truthfully,thats none of the publics business.Some of these same men have not returned to that lifestyle after entering into recovery and those that continue to live the lifestyle should not be forced into identifying or labelling themselves in any way that they are not comfortable.As educators,it is our responsibility to teach prevention.I tell all parties concerned that New York state has no punishable statutes regarding the transmission of sexually transmitted diseases.The ball is in your court.When engaging in sexual behavior,protect yourself.

There seems to be an obsession with mainstream media-created celebrities. The most interesting parts of hip-hop have always been the independent artists and people doing it themselves. There are a bunch of gay hip hop creators who have been putting stuff out there for some time. People need to forget about waiting for some closet case who's achieved success through not being truthful about themselves and pay attention to people who are creating honest music.

I think what makes the whole closet scenario exciting is that it would be such a great reality check. Hip Hop needs a Rob Halford to shake things up. As someone who wants to see a prominent gay artist in the spotlight, I am hoping for the biggest splash possible. I want to hear people say, "Yeah, I really dig his music, but he's gay so fuck him." I want some gay R. Kelly action, where everybody gets all freaked out, and then people overlook the stigma and stand by him. At least, that's what happened to the R.
But is it possible that peeing on 14 year old girls is more acceptable than two grown men having sex?
I can tell you right now there is no way that an unknown gay hip hop artists will be able to get famous if they mention ONE WORD about being gay in their music. Therefore, you can either wait in vain... or hope someone comes out that big ol' closet.

HI MY NAME IS AMORI AND I AM OPENLY GAY SINGER, DANCER,AND RAPPER. AND I WAS RECENTLY SEXUALLY IN VOLVED WITH A HIP HOP ARTIST WHO IS VERY WELL KNOWN IN THE BIZ. THIS RAPPER PROMISED TO KEEP ME PAID AND HELP ME GET A DEAL, BUT SOMETHING HAPPENED (I WONT GO IN TO DETAILS YET ) BUT HE STOPPED TAKIN CARE OF ME AND STOPPED CALLING ME. ALL OF MY GOOD FRIENDS SAY I SHOULD EITHER GO PU BLIC WITH IT OR BLACKMALE THE SHIT OUT OF HIM UNTIL I GET ALL THE THINGS HE PROMISED AND MORE. WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD DO .

Amori...
I appreciate your sharing this information. But I think you need to sort things out a little.
I don't see any connection between the status of your relationship with this person, and whether you should "out" them. It sounds like the relationship is over and you obviously haven't gotten over it. You need to move on.
It sounds like you want revenge for this person. But if you didn't get married, technically they don't owe you anything.
Your relationship and this "outing" are two totally separate things. And as a journalist, I would want to hear it from the person themself.
That said, you are welcome to post the person's name on this board and I will not remove it. But you should tell them first. Absolutely, tell them first.
good luck...

My question is actually meeting and connecting, with these down low/ masculine men, especially if I have to continue initiating introductions, in order to make ANYTHING HAPPEN. If I do not, nothing will, due to the fact; people seem to have a sit on the fence mentality. You/He(pronoun of your choice)will continue to stare at me on the bus and train, nod, from your car, causing me to give you the OK, you proceed to do nothing. Come out of the zone and make something happen. Do not get mad at me for being with someone, later telling me you were interested, when you made no active knowledge, supporting your interest.
Someone would say a brother cannot come on too strongly. I always say step to me like a man. Come for me. Don't make me quess. Lock me down.
If you have it all together(no financial prerequisites)--smiles, some looks, ok body, brains,goals, aspirations, spirituality(foremost), energy, and persistence, come to me.
Work that smile. Shoot that line. Make your self noticed and step my way.
If you are good, you can make me nervous and make me weak. Make your mind and masculinity(don't debase the term)speak.
Don't just sit there. Introduce yourself and let's get this started. Your name is what? Now I introduce myself to you. We are now on our way.

i can't you that i believe the stories about rap
artist, however i can tell you that a lot of athlete's in my neighborhood were on the d.l..
if you were not in this lifestyle they would work
hard to encourage you that nothing is wrong with
it. you have 1 or 2 guys that are outward with it
but i'm talking about 20-25 good athlete's that
are doing this. they only engage from the male
perspective, but you are still with a man. 15 years later i look at a lot of them, a few spend
countless time in jail to satisfy their lust. others are married and sneaking around on the d.l.. i have had a quiet life alone because i weny along with this as a teenager and we ruined
these open guy's life and reputation's to keep
ourselves safe and free of any suspicion. i can
not be in a relationship because i am not able to
tell a woman that as a teenager i engaged in this behavior. i am not on the d.l. as an adult, but
this behavior has ruined a lot of great athlete's
lives. we walk around and have to live with thought of whatif one of us can't keep this a
secret anymore. we all are afraid to talk about
it today so we have to kiss up to each other and
never make each other angry because we tried to engage in a secret life that some wanted and used
everyone else to participate and if we ever tell
our 1 or 2 encounters will be outed also. please
if you are engaging in this, please think about the future, think about a wife you might decide
to marry, it's not fair to her, think about your
family the shame it could cost them, and #1 think
about jesus, he shed his blood for us. i go every-
day and when i meet real friends, i can't get close to them because i fear that if oneday it is
found out that i did it as i youth, i can not live
with the shame. and what about the friend or your
girlfriend or wife, what about the kids, life is
to precious to throw away, i glad i have a contious or i would have thrown my entire life away. anything that is not able to be out front
is not worth the loss of your life. please quit
trying to ruin these entertainers lives, they are
not perfect, that's why christ died for our sins
so that we could have life and more abundance of
it. we will make mistakes until we die, but lets
not repeat the same ones over and over again. i
haven't let anyone in my life get to know me
because of the shame, i talk and socialize with
many people but i will not let them into my heart
because the price of this shame is to hard to bear. whatever you want to do, do it, but do not
ruin other's for your gain. i was the best athlete
in the neighborhood, top student in the class with
grades, however the one time i let myself be led
to something that i thought about, but wasn,t sure
of, i sold my soul for life, i not saying that i
never had thought's about msm, i just knew i was
not ever going to act on them. the few times i engaged i became depressed for weeks and month's,
didn't trust myself, i started running from people
and today i am still running. i got into a few
serious relationships with women. and that ghost
would alway's make me run, i can not take another
life for the wrong that i did. i wanted the best
for these women, but it could not be me because
my past would only hurt them and their future. i
hang with a lot of people, i am a businessman,
a leader in several organizations, i refuse to
have relationships and sex, it's been over 10
years and i'm om 33yrs old, but i can't hurt
anyone. you see women dying today and people say
that it's none of their business if msn. think
about it they are in this fight to, they are on
the frontline of hiv.

Yeah, I read that article when it came out also. I am the jewish gay white mc. Generally I am out during my shows, unless it is somewhere where I fear for my physical health, but then sometimes I still rap about being gay there also. My thoughts are that the likelihood of ANYONE (gay OR straight) "making it big" in this "so five minutes ago" world of entertainment are incredibly small, so I figure I might as well have fun with it and be myself while I'm at it.
When I do a song about being gay, and people--both gay *and* straight--come up to me afterwards to say "wow, I really loved that song", then it means so much more to me than when I do a non-sexual song and find out afterwards that people enjoyed it. I can't tell you how fulfilling it is when people tell me "I like you so much more as an artist now that I know you are gay," and that has happened to me many times.
--soce, the elemental wizard

Gay people are funny in their gay ways.

ayo i was waitin sumthin to happen in the hip hop R-n-B community and then i here that Jesse Powell is hagin out at the clubs and that Eric Sermon is gay? is there truth behind the birdie that hummed these werds in my earhole?

I AM A GAY RAPPER WHO REALLY GOT SKILLS HOW CAN I GET IN THE BUSINESS

it's funny... an article on Christian rappers and Gay rappers on the same page... I think we had enough gay with Vanilla Ice...
Just for my self education does the Christian America consider gay to be normal?

Why are people steadily tring to make men having sex with other men... Homo-thug invasion.... a condition of normality. I am a health care professional.... It has been my experience that when a man has sexual confusion...he also has a laundry bag full of mental illness to go along with it. They are alcoholics, drug addicts, taking psych medication!!
Not all... but MANY of these people have MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES!

Forgot... THE WOMEN with sexual confusion also have mental health problems...impulsive, manipulative, bipolar... and the whole 9.
Taking depakote...lithium...ect

I belive there are alot of down low gay men and I see nothing wrong with it. Think about it how many women do you know that like other women? That is the in thing to do now adays so there has got to be men doing the same thing, only it is not taken as attractive to main stream Amerikkka so they have to keep it a secret. I have always thought there was a down low gay thing going around in my town, but I'm afraid to mention it out of hurting other peoples feelings, because the men I think are gay don't act or talk feminine, but I just have this feeling

Wasn't there an article in the source about ten years ago about there being a gay rapper. He had green eyes, that was the rumour. Who's the green eyed bandit?
"The way I see it, god created adam and eve, he didn't create adam and steve. I'm not homophobic, more of a homosceptic." -
emcee Alan Partridge 2Fresh, the illest of all time.

i'm a lesbian female rapper, and i really got skills. no question. But, i'm not wit the heels n short skirts shit. i like my timbs, fitted n throwback type shit. it's frustrating that my skills are not recognized not even so much becuz of my sexuality, but how i portray it. i'm not tryna be a dude, don't wish i had a dick...not confused at all. i'm J...doin J. I'm just sayin people should be more accepting. Though I do think i'd have a better chance makin it than a man rhymin bout dick. I'm not lookin for advice on how to get out there, just that WHEN I DO KEEP AN OPEN MIND. Aren't u tired of the same ol peeps n they same ol ice n they same damn whips. Where the hell is the real at

I'm a known upnorth rapper .. im bisexual but could never come out and havent played with guys much ..I cant meet gay guys anywhere. im scared of being outed.. it's so hard somtimes I just want to work a regular job and forget rapping but I love hip hop too much ...any cute white boys out there ? email me

I am 31 year old bisexual black man. I am in love with a woman who knows about my sexuality. In fact, I told her before we started dating. Our plight is not easy at all, but I am honest about my thinking and my actions across the board. I just want to encourage this dialogue because it is necessary. As a community we must be compassionate to DL brothers and encourage them to return that same compassion back to community by not partciapting in the unsafe, riduclous, self and other distructive behavior. Sexuality is clearly not a black and white issue for many people. It's actually FLUID for a whole bunch of us. When we deny the NATURAL existence of homosexuality by condemning it as some abnormality or spiritual corruption, we perpetuate the ignorance that is literally killing us off in droves. Homophobes are as much a part of the problem as DL men who engage in unsafe, ridiculous practices. In order to hinder the pandemic spread of HIV we can not alienate any member of the community. The answer is cleary NOT to hate on anybody, but rather to love and embrace every one. To those brothers who are dealing with this issue I send peace and love emphatically.. but I also encourage these brothers to respect themselves; their bodies, their peace of mind and the people they love. Look for support wherever you can find it and GROW! Sexuality is not black and white for all of us, but honesty and intergrity certainly are. I not saying jump the gun and come out if you are not ready.. I'm saying begin to reconcile with that sacred, good thing that you are by trusting in love. Look for support from anyone who loves you unconditionally, and be kind to yourself and those people in your midst who give you love in this life. You are what you DO and nothing else.. So do good yourself and others! Peace&Love, D.k-B.
p.s. Read "Uncommon Lives: Gay Men and Straight Women" - by Catherine Whitney. It won't solve your problems or pave shortcuts for you, but it will let you know that you are not alone. It's a non-fiction book about couples who decided to go the distance together inspite of the man being gay or bi. -One LOve!

To answer that tired cliche' Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve...please. Next. God is in everyone of us Gay, Straight, Bi and Transgendered. We are not all put on this earth to pro-create...we have enough babies out there...without proper care. As far as this DL thang. Good luck. A life living in the closet creates undue stress and undue shame, which leads to alot of drama, always looking over your shoulder. I live in canada and was pleased when I googled Gay Hip Hop to find...that there are others out there who love the music and could do without the homophobia. I would like to pose this question of mainstream exceptance. Who does the makeup, PR, etc. for these mainstream artists who have a problem with gay Hip Hop? We do...gay people are a force responsible for the behind the scenes in much of entertainment...maybe it is time to support those brothters and sisters that have skills and are saying something from our side of the story?
Love Hip Hop and Love the men and women that do it...I will be check the scene when I make it State Side...To my Gay counterparts in the U.S. keep steppin to the mic!

AS AN GAY HIP HOP ARTIST MANAGER, I BELIEVE THAT IT FIRST AND FOREMOST A BLESSING TO BE ALIVE ON THIS EARTH EACH AND EVERY DAY WE'RE ALLOWED. DON'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED.
AND I AM PROUD TO BE A HOMOSEXUAL BUSINESS MAN, WHO'S OPEN-MINDED, EDUCATED, TALANTED,AND EYECATCHING. ON A MISSION TO BRING PEACE AND HARMONY BETWEEN MUSIC AND THE WORLD. WE HAVE TONS OF DIFFERENT STYLES OF MUSIC BEING MARKETED. UNFORTUNATELY NOT OUR OWN WHICH IS GAY HIP HOP. THIS IS THE START OF A NEW ERA.
SECONDLY, IF MORE PEOPLE TREATED THEIR OWN LIVES MORE LIKE A BUSINESS THEN THEY WOULD NOT BE IN ANYONE ELSES BUSINESS.SO DESPITE THE FACT THAT A MAN IS DL OR NOT, THAT IS NOT PROBLEM OF THE WORLD. IT IS UNDER THE TOTAL DESCRESSION ON HIM.
THE WORLD OPERATES LIKE THE GAME MONOPOLY. YOU LAND ON PROPERTY,BUY IT, RENT IT OUT,SELL IT,AND INVEST YOUR MONEY. THE KEY TO SUCCESS IS BEING DIFFERENT.
HAVE A DREAM AND MAKE IT COME TRUE, ALWAYS THINK OPTIMISTICALLY. DREAMS ARE REAL. THE TRUE MEASURE OF REACHING A GOAL IS HOW THE ACCOMPLISHMENT IS ACHIEVED. I WILL ACHEIVE MY DESTINY BY BEING DEDICATED AND MAKING A DIFFERENCE. (TREAT LIFE LIKE A BUSINESS)I HAVE TONS OF QUESTIONS SO EMAIL ME FOR MOR INFORMATION. I WANNA SEE A CATEGORY ON THE GRAMMY'S FOR BEST GAY ARTIST AND SO ON AND I WANNA SEE US GO BEYOND THE EXPECTED. DO YOU? UNSPOKEN VOICES DON'T GET HEARD.

to ERIC
HEY you dumb fuck, whts next 2pac gay? biggie gay? and everyoneelse's gay..I think you are gay you just don't want to admit it , you dumb fuck . since you're the one responsible for this site , I got one word for your bitch ass ..HIDE. cause when I see you I'll fuck you up for dissin our culture and writin shyt like this ...don't think you'll get away with it dumb ass faggot..

If you feel so threatened by my words, just imagine how freaked out you will get if you see me in the flesh.
What... are you gonna rough me up because I said the words gay and hip hop in the same sentence?
Whether I am gay or not is irrelevant. Who cares. It's just butt sex. Get over it.
If you are serious, that is.
;)

aight,ima try n b smart n nerdy on dis one! 1st of all i dun know y people r gay in the first place, dey give all dez reasons liek dey born like dat or dey had relations wit der uncle or some shyt, but styll i mean i had a bad childhood, duz it justify me bein violent to people who never did nethin to me? u say teh gays dun harm neone and that my case is diff, but jus cuz dey dun physically harm neone dun mean wut dey doin is right. i mean so many stupid idiots r takin pity on dem cuz dey da "underdogs" wtf is dat. jus cuz alot der r alot of gays u shud legalize gay marriages n let dem continue doin sometin perverted? der r lots of gangs u know, u sayin u can legalize gang activity cuz so many peopel do it? and when duz dis shyt stop huh? 1st its gays gettin mariiages, den wut? beastiality? u love ur dog so u can marry it? i say dis shudnt have even started. science has proved humans werent made to b gay, and if u r, did u ever consider that maybe u werent supposed to get married, i mean if u dun find chicks attractive...aight, im done wit dis smart shyt, over here in L.A. we always punk doz gay people, lol so weak, holy, im not talkin bout doz think weak gay guys, im talkin bout der partners, the big bearded guy lol. look like bikers, but hey, we fuk wit everyone. gay people look at us like we r queer...wtf is that, we dun like other men bitch! den der r doz guys dat look at u jus to creep u out...fuk...i hate weak people, n gay people r jus rly men dat act like a woman. dey all prissy, and dey talk so fukin weird...i guess ill end by sayin...next time u near the gay parade, throw a couple eggs down on em for ur homeboy from L.A.! dey dun like it? im right here u fags! L.A. Streetsville, right here! aight, peace out(none for gays...lol)

to Intense_chip_chiggaz...yo wtf is your point anyway???
yo ..ERIC..I'm tellin your bitch ass one more to stop fuckin with our culture, and portraying rappers into some sick shyt(I hope you'll get that soon)before It's too late (blacks do not appreciate that)
If you think you're doin a favor for gays(cause you're obviously one yourself)by giving those sick ass muthfuckkas, a lil exposure then you're dead wrong..i'm just lookin out for your bitch ass..lol

to blackguy...simple, 1st gays r fuked up! and shud b killed, 2nd, i hate em and so duz most of L.A. daz all...

I got your point Intense_crip_.. and I respect that...who likes those sick ass muthfuckas anyways, noone but ERIC. lol

"Don't quote me boy, cuz I ain't sayin shit."
Eazy-E

intense_crip_chiggahz...
to answer your question... yes, beastiality should be legalized. maybe then we can bring the issue into the open and discuss it like civilized human beings.
as for my being gay (or not). obviously you are very interested in this subject, which makes me worry for you. especially since i am not gay. but you obviously want me to be for your own amusement and pleasure. it's ok to be curious and ask questions, but you should know when to give it a rest (it's called sexual harassment).
if you see me on the street. you will see how heterosexual i am, and you will be disappointed. sorry to break the news to both you and black guy like that. maybe you should get together and pretend to be not gay. i, for one, couldn't give a shit though. it's just butt sex. i'm sure you've had plenty of it (male or female).

haha fucker, that was a good one. I'm not surprised that you didn't admit, that you are gay(cause that's all the gays do)...so why covering a gay story in the fist place if you ain't one bitch...
bitch stay a fuck off from our culture , If you can't respect it...

yeah bitch, one more thing I don't give a fuck if you're gay or not, but when you cross a line to disrespectin us and our culture, now that becomes a problem, and you're gonna have to be treated like a bitch , as you are.
anyway you can suck a dick all day for all I care, like I said back the fuck off ..

yea one more thing, my bad couldn't collect my thoughts(cause I'm high as fuck), yea since you are the webmaster, try to get my Ip adress and where I live and come and see me. I would personally will bust your fuckin head open, I'm here waitin for yo bitch ass, If you wana take it to another level...
or I can send you my full adress and pay for your ticket(nice offer) to beat the shit outta your bitch ass(let's see how hard you can get)
fucken retarded..

to eric...the gay guy
u said,"especially since i am not gay. but you obviously want me to be for your own amusement and pleasure." lol wtf yo, in my entire post i didnt even mention "eric" so how come u think i want u to b gay. i didnt even mention ur name,but if it makes u feel like u were right,i do think ur gay now. and u also said,"obviously you are very interested in this subject, which makes me worry for you" i had 1 post, and u think gays r a major part of my life?...wow and btw, u didnt answer my question with the beastiliaty,"yes" isnt much of an answer.

anything else?
i think maybe you missed the part about how i'm
FUCKING WITH YOUR HEAD
Here's the deal: i am not gay, but I love to mess with homophobes (no i'm not a queen, thank you). i have much respect for ALL gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgenders because they put up with more discrimination than any other group (blacks included).
and i can't resist pushing the buttons of homophobes like yourself
BECAUSE YOU MAKE IT SO EASY

to eric:
wut u jus said there is descriminating against homophobes and btw, im not afraid of them...lol, wtf r they gonna do, look at me weird? i jus hate them cuz they r queer, i dun fear them. i also thinks its great u have respect for people things that dont deserve respect. wut did they do to earn it...all they do is take the descrimination, they dont fight bak or nethin, i think thats cowardly...if u allow people to walk all over u, they will, cuz people r usually evil lol and until the gays understand that, they will keep gettin descriminated.

so wtf, Intense ...you want them to start fightin for their right too. You know they're gonna start screamin and biting everybody's ass (cause they can't fight)but I know what you mean bro , not literally right..
to ERIC,
you lil bitch listen a fuk up, noone gives a fuck about you being gay or not, but please don't give our culture a bad twist, it's bad as it is.
I know you respect and love gays and all kind of peoples(Including blacks)and you think that there is nothing wrong with being gay(which I strongly disagree)...
look I'm not here to argue about gays (they're all fucked up and I hate them)..But please don't give them the props that they don't deserve, and try not to make them cool (cause obviously they're not)

to black guy
lol course i dont mean literally, the last thing this world needs is gay people standing up for themselves or trying to fight bak,it wud b a massacre. theyll b squashed like the insects they r.
to any gays out there...ur parade is rly annoying
stop doin ur fukin gay pride parade...nobody wants to see two men without clothes kissing each other on a pink flamingo. sides, u clog up the roads. u realize when people throw eggs at ur parade, it means they dun like it. and btw, ur all disgusting...and i hate u..."people"

Fuc all of them faggots and dikes

what up with red MAN AND METHOD MAN ARE GAY TEL I WAN TO KNOW

You know, I always found it interesting how people feel so threatened by homo sexual cultures and subcultures, be it the overall gay movements sstride for gay marriage or the DL mentality that pervades every facet of Hip Hop.
The idea that because someone fucks around with men they are womanly or less masculine is belied by the entire DL phenomenon, these are normal everyday thugs that fuck around with guys on the side or exclusively. They are just as hardcore as you and some are are even moreso, they wear the same chains and the same gear, but when they hit the club their checking your ass out instead of the bitches in the club. If you really think that the gay people wouldn't fight back if there was a "war" your wrong, and yoru thinking is very flawed. For two reasons 1) Your extrapolating the overly happy and effeminate males that comprise 10% of the total male populace that will admit to being gay and assuming that is all gay men. 2) Gay men, the ones that admit it, can do so because of status, in short they make more money than you do, they can hire bodyguards and pay people to fuck you up. Some of the most famous actors, producers, composers, and etc are gay, those peopel behind the scenes that make millions every day and don't give a damn what you think about them and their live in lover. These are the people that bankroll the gay movement and give it the momentum to force the Supreme Court, the highest court in the land to make buggery(sodomy) legal.
Before I go on a much longer rant, let me just say that what you need to do rather than spending your time thinking about what two men do behind closed doors, is worry about the greater problems of the black populace, being education and lack of representation in government, and try to do something about it. Gays are organized and getting their shit done, perhaps we as black people should be doing the same with our agenda. 40 acres and a mule, long as you rely on the white man to give it to you, you'll never see it.
Get educated, learn to read and write at a level comensurate with your age and yours of school, don't come in here typing like a 13 year old white girl with slang n sayin' cum an shit, gotta be using slang n ebonics and shit to get hurd. The Black culture places so much emphasis on masculinity above all else but what about education, black owned businesses, goals, and leading good clean lives? When we as black stop hating ourselves we can move forward but as long as we keep fighting amongst ourselves how can we get anywhere?

aw snap... just what needs to be said. thanks BCS!

Hi Eric. Great page. I find your open-mindedness so refreshing.
And you too "BlackCollegeStudent". Fascinating info in the first two paragraphs. And in the last two, well if you really think that, then I think you're a credit to your people. Hope there are a lot more like that! -In any race really.

D.J.,
I would like you to share you story on a site that my friend writes for "Blackvoices.com" on aol...she also writes for UpScale magazine...if there is anyway we can get in touch w/you...please respond & leave an email that's valid, because for some odd reason this one doesn't work...VERY INTERESTING...celibacy for 10 years huh? Has that kept you sane? Or is the fear what really holds you back? Let me know...
Eric,
This is an outlet for people to discuss OPENLY, and much appreciated...not gay, but I love to learn about ALL cultures (especially)...this new culture of the INDUSTRY (whether it be hip-hop or Hollyweird) is very informative...they say 85% of the INDUSTRY is bi or gay...this just put the stamp on the sealed envelope, signed sealed/delivered...it's up to us a people to receive the message/either voice our opinion (negative/positive) or keep it hush-hush as SO many in the INDUSTRY do...I'm saying speak out...just don't be sleeping w/women on the DL...let her know...D-K-B, did and I APPLAUD a BI-SEXUAL man who can do that/protect himself & his mate(s) at the same time...
Big Up to D-K-B!!
One LOVE, 1 LIFE, 1 FAMILY, ONE GOD...AND THE SAGA CONTINUES!!!

i just want to know about 50 cent and ja rule and jay z and is beyonce gay? is guru on the dl and little wayne keith murray and method man amd red man.

I've been reading on this touchy subject of the subculture of the DL man in society. I feel its really sad that as black men we have to subject ourselves into hiding because of mainstream values. It's sad that we can't collectively gather and take a stand. I can understand why us men, espcially black men, don't want to come out and take a stand. It's hard and it all starts from our childhood. Lets be serious all through our school career and on the streets you know when someone is "Gay", but most front and want to be quick to call someone else a fag.
I myself: I wouldn't consider myself an openly gay person. I feel its my business and I don't need to drive down the street screaming it like I am Paul Reveere. The only thing I hate is that it's hard to date and just have a monogamous relationship. A lot of us want to share with one person...but it's that male mentality of I have to sleep with everyone to prove my manhood thing! Maybe I'm wrong. Those are my thoughts on this subject and I hope they will be respected. Everyone thank you and God Bless!

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT TI IS AN GAY
RAPPER. THEN TI SAYS THAT HE IS THE
KING OF THE SOUTH. TI DONT EVEN HAVE
FLOW LISTEN TO ME FLOW I HURT THAT
BOY JUST WITH MY FLOWS. I AM A 15 YEAR OLD GIRL
IF YOU HAVE SOME THING TO SAY WRITE BACK
AT LILMUCKEY@AOL.COM

OH!!!BLACK COLLEGE STUDENT WHAT U WROTE WAS SO TRUE WHY IS IT THAT STRAIGHT MEN ARE ALWAYS THREATENED BY GAYS. I`M NOT GAY BUT I REALLY DONT CARE WHO MARRIES WHO. PEOPLE CAN MARRY A STONE IF THEY WANT PPL SAY THAT MARRIAGE IS SACRADE BUT ITS NOT MICHAEL JACKSON GOT MARRIED HOW SACRADE IS THAT?! I GET PICKED ON EVERY DAY NO I`M NOT A NERD PEOPLE DONT LIKE ME CAUSE I`M "NEW" AND I GET CALLED FAGOT EVERYDAY AND TO THE REAL GAY PEOPLE I FEEL VERY BAD FOR BECUASE THEY HAVE TO ENDURE ALL OF THIS

dont lie to urself !-- faggotry rots the soul!!!! i do admit i have a huge amount of hate towards fags but even if i didnt i would still stand by the FACT that faggotry is evil, vain, lustful, wrong, satanic and ruins the souls of men much like most women which is why we as men must be the strongest and show the women and weak men the true righteous path ---adam and eve not adam and steve it might be cliche but alot of true things are. Its all natural selection the weak gay fags hopefully wont reproduce and will eventually die off and we must root out this mentality in young kids by feeding them overly homophobic songs and constantly telling them how their souls will be lost if they partake in faggotry. --------
"u want ubnoxious shit ill pave the way/ grab a shotgun and start pickin off faggots at a gay parade!"--jakki of Mhz
sometimes u gotta get ignorant! fuck it! ----oh yea to ERIC fuck you man!!! its faggots llike you in positions of power and mass communication control who are ruining hiphop for real !! stop it stop these threads in the 80's there were a whol lotta fags but the hiphop founding fathers dissed them well enough to make future generations know they dont belong!!!! they were never liked or welcome in this hip hp shit they were always dissed why would a fag even listen to rap ? dont get it , its like me listening to natzi rock- the country is going to hell its an evil place and these trends the male and female bisexuality that is running rampant now and being accepted - the war the lies the vanity of our culture it feeds into gay mentalities and its more of a sign of the EVIL ass SATANIC SOULLESS CONDEMNED DAMNED times we live in .
fuck you eric-i will never support this site again.

A time for REALIZATION. We are all human
being and are equipped by birth with
emotions. We express them to people we
know and feel comfortable with. Parents,
siblings, extended family, pets, schoolmates, and media artists. Since we are programmed by birth to respond to our feelings, NONE, not one single one of us is able to resist our emotions. We all have the capability to be emotionally attracted to a man or a woman. We can resist physically but when our enotion say yes there is not much we can do about it. There are many men and woman who have had a desire to have sex with someone of the same sex, but were too afraid or felt that it was wrong to follow thru. I'm talking about ,close buddies, work partners, cousins, neighbors, or strangers. We all have that ability to be in love, and when that love is so emotional we will take a chance "ont time". Though some might criticize others for being gay, we are
all bisexual by human nature. It has nothing to do with being maculine or feminine and all to do with being human.
So all of you who thing it is wrong (i'm
not talking about that here) you may one
day be suprised tofind you youself in a DL or gay relationship even it you think you would NEVER be in one.The reason is with the "right" touch, word, smile, as a programmed human being you will be unable to resist. Like the song says "it's physical, only logical, you must
try to ignore that it means more than that".

....ughghghgh!!!!.......listen to u man!!! damn!!!! emotions emotions, sign your soul over for emotional pleasure-i can see your fork tongue from here! so we're supposed to run around fucking each other in the ass cuz it feels like the thing to do ? ewww!! giving in to the flesh is EVIL SATANIC 666 get it!! and if you didnt know the earth is for sure the devils playground- im not even religious but I can see the lesson about women/temptation and mans ruin in adam and eve's story its basic if you dont want to excell in mind and spirit then cater to emotions and flesh -youll get nowhere fast, and we know flesh rots away when the body dies or sometimes while its still alive but what is around when we are dead? if anything its our souls and spiritual essence . if you wanna be completely real we would be way more succesful as a people,a human race if we didnt worry about such things and conditioned our minds to reach higher awareness and consciousness, telepathic levels and not worry about emotions and sex and love and shit --ur right emotions make WEAK humans helpless, emotions have gotten a lot of humans, nowhere, killed, beat, and in all types of trouble cuz they couldnt make the right decisions should we condition ourselves as a species to be even more succeptible to this weakness? to cater to it? Its been how many millions of years of human existence and we know everything about emotions but cant communicate telepathically or change our physical conditions through the mind, we havent succesfully inhabited any other planets, we havent even unlocked all the righteous secrets of earth and our minds, when it comes to those types of breakthroughs we havent seen much progress but when it comes to lust and evil carnal indulgences we have made technological leaps (mental none) for what to serve vanity ? sex ? looks? and does that even matter? we dont/cant even use up to 15 % of our brains imagine the unlocked potential that lies up there - we are PROGRAMMED FROM BIRTH to be able to cure ourselves of various conditions without medicin but we havent unlocked this power (in western society) - my point is this Faggotry is a very vain and weak condition of human bieng and hiphop is the driving force of art getting young lazy kids to think and use thier mental creative powers, if this great wave that hiphop is on gets corrupted by faggotry then that is all shot -itll be about looks make-up emotions trendiness and sex and all things that make women the weaker sex like feeble hearts and inability to break from emotional hold will be accepted -and we would be taking backwards steps-look at the natural signs: your asshole is the most dirty place on your body and your dick is your reproductive tool why would you mix those? the diseases that occur ae no coicidence -except for aids which was definately manmade to even out race color-(and its genius cuz we fell right into that trap-aids wouldnt even be thiis big of an issue if we didnt cater to sexuality and addiction which thrive on emotion and feelings 'what feels good' ) even heterosexual sex should only be done when one wants to reproduce for real-lets start changing for the better let us advance mankind!!-the reason we got all these kids running around is mostly cuz people cant control thier lustful cravings and they fuck with no plan- the answer is not to just wear condoms or birth control the answer lies in teaching future generations to put sex and all that on the absolute back of the back burner in tv cartoons music school , lets teach that sexuality has a use for reproducing and thats it, when children are busy tryng to move objects with thier minds they wont have time, craving,or energy to worry about sex and the ones that are weak just wont make it.----- faggotry is the opposite of this progress.---So yes lets have Realization and realize that we as a human race are getting nowhere- we are running in circles wagging our dicks at each other this needs to stop. dont ruin hiphop faggots and dikes ! go thrive in other more accepting forms- this hiphop shit is serious and it could be our savior -leave it alone, the pillars were set and fags were not included for very good reasons.
excell.

To: nofags!!!!!nodikes!!!!!
Let he without sin cast the first stone.
I know you believe that you are right. ButI bet you are young and really haven't experienced life yet. Are you even 20 yet? Have you even ever read the Bible? You need to learn about love, and living your life as an example for others to follow. I pray for you as I do for myself, that you will be given guidance, wisdom, love, and understanding.

Dear "nofags!!!!!nodikes!!!!!"...
The amount of time you spend thinking about "faggotry" is truly impressive.
Maybe you should consider going to college and studying the effects of faggotry on hip hop culture. I think you should think about it over and over and over again (faggotry, that is) until you are so mad that you are able to heal yourself of this curse of your obsession with faggotry.
Personally, I don't think about faggotry (or lesbianatry) that much.
As Andy Warhol once quipped, "Sex is the biggest nothing of all time."
Good luck... I will pray for God to heal you.

Dear "nofags/Nodikes"
I'm going to stike you dead in your sleep with a lightin bolt-GOD

I heard that TI (the rapper) was gay because I have a gay friend but you could never tell if he was gay because he lives on the DL and we went to a restaurant in NY and we saw TI so my DL friend ask to take a pic with him so he said when he finishes eatting so we sat down and all I could feel is TI kept starring at him so I was like he was looking at you for a long time. So my friend got up to use the bathroom to see if he would get up and follow him which by the way he did get up. So what I wanna know is do you think that means he is gay?

I have read all of the comments listed above and i must say that a lot of u r either young or just plain old stupid! we r living in a new era. being gay is like the new "in" thing. it's the bell bottoms of 2005 either u like it or u don't,if not get a different pair of jeans. i am gay. it's not easy but it's me.i cant change it no matter if its wrong or right so stop wasting ur time telling everyone its evil or whatever. if a law was passed saying that sexing females was aginst the law and the punishment was death would u stop?think about it. its not that simple u see. if u don't like gays so what 9 out of 10 times a gay guy wouldn't even look your way. personaly i think guys who hate on gays are upset that they can't come out or just know that they would never have that type of courage to do so.

I am saying this for a reason. I know there have been 'rumours' of me on the internet that I have had sex change. I would like to admit to it, I used to be gay I got a sex change to become a woman then I signed to La Face records to record by LP Goodies. There ive admitted it.

I think wat Dee said above is absolutely right well put and well said because i am gay to xxx

Do any body know if JayZ is bisexual, I heard he was before and now that he is a CEO now he probably get dick every now and then, but I am not compeletely sure he is, if any body know anything about this please give a response thanks

jay z aka shawn carter is indeed bisexual, he is in fact gay, a homosexual who is in the closet due to obvious reasons, todays culture would not accept his true sexual orientation if he was out, being openly bisexual his entire rep would be completely dystroyed and he would be shammed from teh industry, also another huge industry fruit is the well known closet case russel simmions, who actually spends most of the day looking for richer more powerfull white folks cocks to suck on. the MAINSTREAM hip hop industry is made up of many cut out cartoon caracters and studio gangstas that never did nothing any times of things they rap about and are faker then plastic. all they do is fill the minds with rediculous ignorance to keep there people from success and achieving a higher plane of achievment besides getting incarerated on a drug charge .

Thats some bull$#*%!!
How the hell would anyone know who's gay and who's not? That's riduclous to make such an assumption, especially if you don't know them personally. And even if they were, why would they tell everyone? Thats f*cking suicide! These dudes are making millions, why would they risk losing their rep just to bust a nut with another dude? Thats crazy!!
And about T.I.,
There's no way he could be gay or on the DL. I ACTUALLY have a cousin that knows him and he can tell you that the man is only into p#ssy. Hell, I'm from Atlanta too and thats all these dudes on the west side seem to think about!!

Whew....Raw emotions, powerful debates, hillarious, hateful even! I love it. I am sure we can all agree to disagree, that seems to be the trend. Human sexuality is probably if not the most powerful drive to date. Explain an infant masterbating? Bring it up to early childhood when pre-schoolers "experiment" with one another, same sex of course because at one time or another boys hated girls and vice versa, remember? Ok, take it further, when lil girls and boys want to marry their mommy and daddy? There's a lot of psychology involved when we are/were developing our sexual identities, hell it was/is downright confusing, lol, it's no wonder there are some that stray, not to mention the abuse factor (let's just say i'm glad I was never an alter boy:) and the popular debate among pedophiles that feel it is perfectly "normal" to be sexually attracted to children. The "DL" trend, phenom, or whatever label it is carrying at this time is certainly nothing new. What's new? Over time, technology, education, miseducation, music, art etc has brought it to the forefront. Surely in the black community, masculinity is expected. The fact is masculinity does not equal heterosexuality. I am also confused as to how in the subculture of prison/jail/incarceration or any all male populated facility m on m sex is accepted/expected until the "bid" is up then the individual revert back to um "normal" sexuality. What is "normal"? It has been duely noted that the toughest of Italian mobsters preferred sex with other men. As far as hip-hop is concernced, anyone would be in denial to believe there are no bi-sexual/homosexual artist. Curiosity is another strong drive of human nature so naturally some would like to know exactly who is? I don't think it would be the ruin of hip hop as we know it if a few fell on out of the closet. Will the talent/creativity decline? Another fact is humans are creatures of habit,and very fickle, finiky and all that other jazz, we like what we like, we want what we want, no one wants to hear that Jay P, P shiddy, Erik Sercum and blah blah blah is a twinkie, but the truth is the light, a good many of these entertainers male/female, are fruit loops, hell Luthers' book didn't top the charts because we wanted to know his recipe for fried chicken, but it's a scary thing when you are afraid to be yourself, Luther went to the afterlife never having being able to be himself in this life. That had to be a living hell. I would like to see more honesty, acceptance, and safer practices when it comes to man/woman kind..Thanks for reading. Oh, yea any of you bedroom thugs can hit me up, i'm straight, lol. Serious, Forreal man. Ha, by the way, I am female, um I don't know what I am sexually but so far i've only enjoyed the pleasure of a black man, am I missing something?

YO ERIK. YOU'RE A FAGGOT AND YOUR WEBPAGE SUCKS DICKS.

Faggot hater you wished you sucked dicks, insecure little closet cased bitch. You homophobes need to be rounded up and holocausted you are the scum of the earth.

IF YOU WERE TO DESCRIBE THESE DOWN LOW (dl) GUYS.HOW WOULD YOU IN ONE WORD?

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Digital number system and embedded code. Your talking on you "cell phone", soon you will be in a cell. Thanks for the location, the military follows, your homo empire falls and crumbles. World domination with hitlers software,one click of a mouse and you electrical world is dead. Email,text messge, broadband raid. what chip is in your system? dosent matter i already flashed it. No where to run just justice bills to pay. thats what you get for being a digital gay!! HaHAHAH!

Listen to this great group!

It amazes me at how many ignorant comments people make about things they OBVIOUSLY DON'T UNDERSTAND. As far as gay/DL rappers are concerned, i know there are quite a few out there....you just have to wait for them to either come out the closet or get outted. but don't hate on someone for living the life THEY WANT TO LIVE.

Really this is a pointless conversation. The really famous gay rappers won't be known until they retire. Homophobes will continue hating gays and using God as an excuse but not following a single word from the Bible. They will get angrier and flame ignorant emails and yells. Why are you really mad?
Is hip hop destroyed because there are gay rappers? No. So, homophobes why do you keep reading about it and bitching.
Gays and open-minded people looking for a famous openly gay rapper, keep on waiting. It will happen.

Homosexuality, bisexuality or any other 'ality' where a person engages in sexual thoughts or acts with another person of the same sex is clearly an abomination and 'stinks in the nostrils of God' according to scriptures. Some things are true whether you believe it or not and making excuses, trying to equalize, or trying to explain being gay (bisexuals ar gay too) away doesn't make it right and doesn't make it normal or rational. Everyone of you knows this deep down and wrestle with it on a daily basis if even for a split second. All human beings know this truth and it bothers people to the core. Same sex relationships have never and will never be tolerated by any true Christian, Jew, Muslim or any other follower of ancient biblical texts just like any other acts that God has said are wrong. It's impossible to do so if God himself said it's wrong and destroys cities and civilizations because of these same acts.
The Holy Spirit convicts us all of wrongdoing and one day we will be found without excuse for giving in to the lusts and desires of our flesh. Same sex relationships are not normal behavior no matter how you look at it and never has been since the beginning of mankind. People you can't possibly believe it is! Nothing about it is right. Even my young kids know it's wrong without anyone telling them so. They don't like it and it makes them feel funny.
Gayness in all forms is a sin like every other sin of the flesh we commit and you need to be saved and receive power from on High to live a righteous life. You don't HAVE to be gay, even if you grew up with the desire. You're just looking for help from the wrong source. Human beings are so smart we're stupid when it comes to things that are logical, obvious and common wisdom. Animals have an excuse for their irrational actions yet we act worse than animals because we know better and choose not the path of righteousness. We simply don't choose to do what we know from the core of our being is right.
If you want to learn the Truth and stop living a life full of lies, delusion and deception, pick up the Word of God and read it (KJV). The Truth (Jesus) will set your soul free, take those unclean desires away from you and make you whole even if it's for the first time in your life. That's a promise from Heaven. BTW, hindsight is always 20/20 ;)

There are no exceptions to this Rule:
One Lifestyle produces Life, and the other Lifestyle produces Death.
Which Lifestyle have you chosen and why?
LOVE ALL OF YOU!

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