Ay,

Didn't Ludacris do an interview with Bill? Or maybe that was just a Rap/Hip-hop journalist/columnist from some magazine trying to support Ludacris.

Bill O' Reilly is all about sensationalism. Here's a good O'Reilly diss article... www.macfilez.net

Peace.

bill is a big punk,luda is tha shit

I side with Bill O'reilly. Secular rap music is responsible for alot of the deterioration that our nation is experiencing at this time. I can remember the days when you could'nt find a rap cd with profanty on any store shelves. Now it's the reverse. All Real Christians should agree with Bill O'reilly on this issue.

It's not a black-white thang it's a moral thang. Punk rappers like ludacris try to make it that way to take the focus off of the garbage that they produce. Everybody talkin' 'bout rap music is dying. Well let it die!, or let it be cleaned up and transformed.
It's funny to me when I hear bustas like slim shady, ludacris, nelly, dmx, and others cry like babies cuz people iz downloadin' they music. The people jackin' the music are only acting out what they here in the lyrics.

It's all about dat Gospel Rap!!!
Reppin' Christ 4 Real!!
Uplifting the Gospel of Jesus Christ and treading down the evil works of death.

Let's just put the issue aside for a moment. Regardless of whether rap music or culture is "degrading to society" or not, the main point here is the fact that Bill O' Rielly has the audacity to express such radical views as to boycott drinking Pepsi on the basis of their sponsoring of a rap artist. His actions show that not only is he close minded and whiny, but that he blindly throws his media weight around as if his conservative, sheltered views should dictate all of our lives. Personally, I don't like country music, but does that stop me from drinking milk just because I saw the Dixie Chicks in a "Got Milk?" add?! No it doesn't, and you know why?
1. I have enough modesty to be respectful of others opinions and tastes.
2. When I'm displeased I don't make a scene (or in this case and exaggeration of opinion to hurt Pepsi)
But hey, it's Bill O'Rielly, we shouldn't really care about what he says. I don't think the majority of us here are the types of rednecks who frequently watch his "Fair and Balanced" show.

Like I said, it ain't a black-white thang it's a moral thang. I'm as black as they come and I still agree with Bill O'reilly. Would you say that I'm a redneck?. I'm no redneck, I'm a black male thug-lookin' brotha that don't like what ludacris and others like him are about. Don't I have the right to purchase or not to purchase what soda I want? Rappers like ludacris should be held accountable for the garbage they produce. I would stop buying Pepsi myself if it would go toward de-legitamizing
people like ludacris in the eyes of our children.
Kids look up to these rappers and try to copy what they do. No matter how stupid it is. It's time that Christians like myself all over this country take a strong stand against this type of music.

I dont care if Luda is gay i still think he is GORGEOUS!!!!No i am not gay cuz I AM A GIRL AND HE IS A GUY!!!!!

Bill O'Reilly is an ass. Case closed.

Jamille, I don't know if you've ever been to California before, but brothaz are dying out here. These rappers say that they are just "keepin' it real." What's real is the number of black males that die and go to prison every day in America. While this cycle continues, they still keep on braggin' on "tha game." When will we wake up as a people and realize that Bill O'reilly isn't our enemy. I don't see him sqeezin' triggaz, drug dealin, pimpin'and jackin' in my neighborhood.We are doing it to ourselves. It's a shame that Bill O'reilly is the only one have the guts to speak up about a issue that effects black people the most.

Bill O Reilly sucks ass. He always has an opinion for everything, and everybody is just "Jesus christ O Reilly would you just shut the hell up, nobody cares!" Except Pepsi because they are retards.

Although I agree that Eminem should not whine abou people downloading his music, just because hell lose $20 out of the millions he makes, but I'm not going to get all PMSy at him because he is rich and he is a white rapper. What does this have to do with Bill O Reily. Absolutely nothing. Okay, so back to Bill O Reilly:

Bill O Reilly is a racist. He is always yappin about how rap may have cause kids to do crimes in the songs, but what about metal? Metal isn't black music, and they are most likely singing about cutting themselves, drugs, and necrofilia.
But has Bill O Reilly said anything about that? No! Metal is mostly considered white music, that's why.

Now to go off topic for a second because I can't keep the same topic at times: Black people shouldn't continue to lie about how all of us white people are nazi, KKK sons of bitches. Alot of us white people have helped the Black people gain freedom in this country. And when a white person uses the word "nigger" as an insult, alot of other white people in the same room will go "OH HOW RACIST!". But when a black person uses the word "cracker" it's okay to the exact same white people. Someone please tell me how it's okay for african-americans to talk shit about white people. Just because of what some dumbass white people did to them in the 1800's, doesn't mean ALL of us have to take the guilt.

The reason why I may not have made much sense in these four paragraphs is because I had a fourteenth of vodka

Let me clarify myself. Rap music affects black people the most, but more white people actually buy rap music these days then black people do. There are white guys out here that claim crip and blood gangs. Metal music doesn't pose the same threat as rap. At least not where I'm from. I don't hear many ganstas bumpin' metal. marilyn mason is a joke to most people in the ghetto.

I wouldn't say that I agree with Bill O'reilly on every issue, but I do agree with him on this one though. I can't say whether he is a racist or not but I wouldn't call him a racist because of his comments about secular rap music because I agree with them and I'm black. Before I bounce I just want to let ya'll know, "The devils a pimp..so don't be his hoe!

The fact that you all are having a discussion is cool. The fact that you are debating the journalistic quality of something you saw on FOX news is not. That station is for idiots. Ya dont read the tabloids at the supermarket check out, do you? So why you watching that bullsh*t? Bill O'Reilly, and evengelists both are so tired. Son, stop with the 'JC' talk. It makes ya sound insane. Gospel Rap is going the same place Stryper did. Ya done know.

You right mane, I'm crazy 'bout Christ in a real way. Because He delivered me from "the game."

The devil's a pimp... don't be his hoe!

yea yea ludacris may not always say the right things but i like him. and for all of those O'Rielly fans do any of u REALLY know what O'Reilly stands for??????And some of you that agree with him say that rap is bad for america and especially black teens.....i dont wanna sound racist or anything but if u think about columbine how many black kids went in and shot students....none and when the shooters lives were examined it showed that one of the very things that might have affected them was the music they listend to and the type of music they listend to metal/gothic.....even though i feel as though music has no effect on what a person does thats why i get mad when a child goes to court and says something like emenim made me do what i did

Peep game mane, first of all my prayers go out to the families of the victims of the Columbine shootings. Columbine was a isolated incident. What I'm talking about is a cultural wave. Now days you ain't counted as man until you've done time in prison. Gettin' locked up is a status symbol in the hip hop community for the most part. Rappers brag about killin', gangbangin', pimpin'and robbin' etc. as if these things are good. Everybody's claimin' thug, gangsta, player,huslter, or pimp. Evil is good and good is evil in hip hop. If you don't cuss,degrade women, or talk about illegal and sexual exploits, you won't sell records. That really says something about todays rap audience. Heavy metal and gothic music ain't good either, but rap has a worse effect nationwide. Sure individual examples can be found, but I'm talkin' big picture here mane. Ah ya'll, "The devil's a pimp... don't be his hoe!

I am a mixed male (half white and half black) and I think that attacking music for the state of affairs in this country is the dumbest thing that anyone could do. Throughout history, music and the arts has always been an easy target for criticism. Not only has rap music been criticized, Elvis was criticized. If you don't like it turn it off.

People need to quit trying to take the easy way out and try to answer about the real causes behind the problems in America. Like why there is such an unequal social scale in this country? Why America is not much of a democracy anymore?

Bill O'Reilly talks like he is person with such high moral standards, but everytime I hear him on the radio he is constantly insulting and bashing people with personal attacks. I would say he is more part of the problem than he is helping the situation. I respect others opinions just don't be a hippocrit.

jfm,

I don't know what part of the country you live in, but where I live, music has a big effect on what goes on. Just the other day I heard three young girls rapping the lyrics to a song and they were talkin' about "poppin' that thang." Young boys want to grow up and be drug dealers and gangstas. Look at what happened to Biggy and Tupac. If you can't see how music effects this country then I suggest that you wake up! Elvis wasn't glorifying murder,drug dealing etc. Your comparison isn't accurate. I don't respect evil. People have the right to have any opinion they want, but that doesn't mean that I have to respect it. I don't like the foul hip hop of today and it stays off in my house, believe that! I would say that you probably don't have any kids. Talk to me after you become a parent and you are raising kids in this messed up world.

It's all about Luda. Forget Bill O'Reilly. He can go suck a d**k for all I care. He just haten all Luda. Luda probally did more for teens then he ever did. J.C rap music is not the reason for young black shooting each other, they shoot each other over territory and things like that

Personally I love ludacris I don't care what he says that disrespects females, that doesn't me he really feels that way about us females. He's only doing that to sell his records. All lot of people to the same thing like Slim Shady. No one says anything about him. Bill O' Reilly is just discriminating against Ludacris, and he needs to stop. No one like a hater. Bill knows at least once in his life he disrespected a women and it proball was his own mother.

Yo i understood alot about wut Jc had to say.But don't side wit O'Reilly. He's a racist.

drugs and crime have been around longer than any form of music so who he to say music forces people do crimes. And why the hell does it matter whos the spokesperson in order for you to drink soda i dont drink soda because i saw some one drink it on tv. He music is bad what about movies and tv just by watching Bill's show make want go out buy a gun to shoot with. The fact of the matter is Bill O'reily is a PRICK and he should keep his commment to himself people do have a right to there opinion but that mean you can come on Tv and force it down peoples throats.

check out bill oreilly's novel "those who tresspass" if you wanna read some foul shit All hip hop does not revolve around gangsta rap the coporate snakes encourage gangsta to the exclusion of everything else You can find many different styles and subjects in hip hop does anyone think krs1 and chuck d are destroying the youth what about the coup? I could go on but the point is hip hop is an art form includin more than just music it is an art form that trancends barrier's of race, religion or nationality go 2 a hip hop function and you will see all kinds of people not many other musical styles or cultural mileiu's can boast of this but if you don like it I guess you dont like it In closin I just wanna say if you completely eliminate hip hop the problems facin poor people will not subside. peace.

first of all to JC you cant just say let rap die cus for most of us where im from the only way out of the hood is through rap or death so dont go disrespectin rap cus as you can see that most rappers that make it get paid a lot of money and its not just me thas tryin to get out the hood people like me would use that money too get family and friends out tha hood so dont try pushin your thoughts on us just because u like gospel rap and no offense but how many gospel rap albums go platinum and do u honestly think that u can go to an all black school, the hood, or any black community and think that they can tell u the name of at least ONE gospel rap artist..... didnt think so so dont blame luda for anything

p.s.l if rap dies then gospel rap dies

I like what Jamal just said. JC, if rap dies then gospel rap dies.What is said on rap albums is not necessarily acted out by the artist. The reason why these rap artists are making violence and sexual themes present in there lyrics is to appeal to the OLDER senses of the OLDER people of the community. If raps were just on about trivial things like say taking a walk in the garden, do you actually think more that 10 units would be sold? Its the presence of those adult themes that makes the albums so appealing. And on another note, why do you think there's a parental advisory sticker on all albums that have an adult theme. therefore the responsibility of the mishap should not be placed on the shoulders of the artists but, if possible, on the negligence of the departments stores, retailers and parents for allowing the CDs get to the wrong hands. I am a very great fan of Ludacris and the reason why i am not "pissed off" with the outcome of all this is just that it has helped his success and enabled him to sell more records and further his career. I will continue to support Ludacris and all his causes. I will support his Ludacris Foundation which is currently being sponsored by Pepsi. I will buy his upcoming clothing collection CP Clothing. Overall, i will continue to be the ultimate Ludacris fan. J.C pay particular attention to what i have said. Rap music is not a threat to anybody. It is us who are a threat to ourselves.
Peace out!

Bill O'Reilly isn't racist; he tells it like it is, and people can't handle it so they call him racist and every name in the book to hide that fact. It isn't a race issue, it's about morality and decency. Blacks need to stop blmaing every thing that happens on white people and start taking responsibility for themselves. It's just like what Bill Cosby said this summer. And if Bill dismantles any white celebrities, we are't going to be up in arms, saying he hates white people too. With very few exceptions, rap is performed by blacks, so when Bill wants to come down on digusting, vile rappers, they will most likely be black also.

Jen... I don't think Bill O'Reilly is a racist, but as for you... I'm not sure.

I am not a fan of Ludacris since he came on MTV's TRL and encouraged fans to buy his album so he could "buy another caddie". THAT demonstration of selfish promotion should be argued over in these columns, not an inevitable strike back against someone who finds phantom problems with every aspect of non-Republican society. I actually applaud Ludacris, and any other artist for exposing this angry man for who he is- to a largely politically ignorant audience. I happen to like rap, and country, and house music, and oldies, and classic rock, and punk, and old style blues. If you don't like it, turn it off or change the station. That's what I do when O'Reilly Factor comes on. This column, that song, and Bill's show- they are the beauty of our free(-ish) country.

I find Bill O'Reilly's show quite entertaining. Of course, people do seem to confuse it with journalism. It is surely a comedy show.

bill o reily is found to have been sexually harrasing a women so he dont need to be talkin about how ludacris is degrading women in his lyrics....cuz he doin the same thing.. only worse

First of all we need to talk about Bill. Bill is where he is for a reason, he's good at provoking people's senses when it comes to sensitive issues. Im sure he isnt racist, he is just a extreme conservative. Secondly, this goes to all the people who blame their actions or their children's actions on the music they listen to. If you based what you say or what you do on music, you have already wasted a part of your life. Music is a form of expression, it's the release valve for everything that is considered taboo in this country; it is not to be used as justification for your stupidity. Ludacris is just another squirrel trying to get a nut off of the tree called Life. Please quit hating.
Besides, what kinda world would it be if there was no type of poetry ( rap is also know as "urban poetry"). That would be odd as hell to me.
YO, JC im glad that you are supporting the Christian religion as best you know.
All this is coming from one of Luda's biggest suppporters....
TO EVERYONE READING THIS:
Rap will never die, you cant kill it. You cant kill something that you dont
understand or choose to understand. Its intangible.

Fuck bill oreilly hes just a hypocrit who doesnt wanna ssee a black man make a dolla...Keep on doin ya thing Luda and ill keep buyin ya albums!!!! i luv u
-ASHLEY (FAEVA I LUV ATLANTA)

Bill O'Reilly isn't a racist. He's just yet another Republican shill who suffers from selective indignation. He happily whines about shit that doesn't matter (OH NOeS NOT MERRY XMAS) while giving a free blowjob to the Bush Administration. He is an example of what is wrong with the press and the Fox News Channel and him are the reason why I only get my news from the Internet and The Daily Show.

O'Reilly can suck my dick.

A lot of you are missing the point. Yes, if you don't like rap you can change the station but a lot of young black kids in low income areas don't have responsible parents around to guide them in the right direction. All they have to learn from is what's happening on the streets and what they hear from their heroes, like Ludacris. If a young kid is growing up in a bad neighborhood and his parents are working all the time trying to get by or are just plain deadbeats then there is no counter-influence to the negative images they see on the street and hear from rappers like Ludacris. A child with responsible parents isn't as likely to be harmed by it, but too many kids think drugs and guns are cool because Ludacris said so and no one else was there to tell them differently.

Also, it's ridiculous to call O'Reilly a racist just because he thinks Ludacris is a bad influence. Does that mean that no white person can ever criticize a black person unless they are racist? Give me a break. Who's more of a racist, the guy who tells people that with self respect and hard work anyone can make it in this country or the ones like poster Jamal who say "the only way out of the hood is through rap or death". Why is that, Jamal? Does Jamal think people in the 'hood' aren't smart enough to make it? Oh no, I forgot, it must be because of 'racists' like Bill O'Reilly and the evil Fox News Network. It's not because people like Ludacris are telling our kids that illegal activity is cool despite the fact that drugs and guns will lead a person straight to jail or the grave. No, it's definitely not that.

The bottom line is that the greater influence on the behavior of children is their immediate environment, not television. Yes, a broken family situation and a delinquent peer group is a recipe crime. But as the Buddha said, "Life is full of suffering". Some will rise above and others will fall. The best we can do is reach out to those who wish to rise above. We should worry less about saving those who are bound to fall and focus instead on those who have a chance.

The focus on Ludacris and Bill Oreilly is a focus on those who won't make it. It shows a lack of hope. Let's focus on those who can make a positive difference, both kids as well as teachers, parents, and leaders.

man who is bill and what does his word mean? Shit. he got an opinion just like everybody else. so i would not take it that serious. i dont know what he has against lida. i wonder what kind of music he listens to, ozzy perhaps?

O'Reilly sucks a dick. He has no respect for the black community. So the hell what? Pepsi recently signed P.Diddy. Why isn't O'Reilly attacking Diddy? He's trying (unsuccessfully) to promote the "Bad Boy" image. Word to O'Reilly-shut the fuck up you white bitch.

Thats why white people are the dominant race in this country and will continue to be. 90% of the black community is as stupid as "Brick J". If you cant beat em join em, and its about damn time you ignorant jiggaboos did just that.

Bill O' Reilly's mad because Luda's "thief" and got away with words- luda will still throw him a curb while he gives him a shut-out. Why is Mr. O'Reilly attacking ludacris and the pepsi company when his "own" network puts out shows like temptation island which is as close to porno as possible- degrading females. And to all the people who's trying to make this a black and white issue, you are all ignorant in my opinion. And i dont know what's wrong with the pepsi company too. they fired ludacris eventually and now they signed P. Diddy to make their commercial?- that's why this country is going into the toilet. And with the christian brother, no diss', but i'm a christian too and i listen to some of luda's songs and if you didn't like rap music but you say you're "thuggish looking"- what's that about?- aint that a rap/ hip hop slang?
If you dont like rap dont buy the CD or change the station. American parents need to take responsibilities for their bad kids. Amsterdam promotes sex- prostitution a lot, they have a place to smoke weed and do drugs "safely" but compare that to the U.S.- who has the highest crime rate? You be the judge.
I love you Mr. O'Reilly, I love you too Luda and the DTP family.
God bless everybody- Peace, I'm out.

oh man... for anyone saying that this aint a black vs white thing, blow it out ur *ss. Its appalling that Pepsi would have a problem working with Ludacris simply because of his profane lyrics and what not. Just not too long ago, I saw a Pepsi commercial starring Ozzy Osbourne and his idiot family. I mean don't get me wrong, I love lauging at their expense, but the Osbournes--overt drug use, language, both physical and verbal abuse--are so much more offensive than Ludacris. Tell me why O'Reilly can single out Ludacris while completely overlooking Ozzy Osbourne and all that he and his family represent. Yea, sounds pretty racist to me. It's just too hard to believe that this isn't a "race thing" when Pepsi is gladly promoting the white man while singling-out and incriminating Ludacris.

I believe everyone has a choice on what type of music they listen to. Rap music is no better than Heavy Metal which talks about suicide and cutting themselves . Lets face it I know there is Gospel Rap but how much people listen to that compared to those who listen to mainstream Rap music. Honestly I believe music does not influence a person because if that was true why am I not pimping and gang banging? Music is put there to enjoy if you don’t like a certain type of Music then don’t listen to it. If Pepsi wants Ludacris to indorse their product then Bill O’ Rilley should have little say in the agreement. There’s a saying if you have nothing nice to say don’t say it at all and that’s exactly what Bill O’ Rilley should of done. Ludacris is an artist he can express his point of view through his music. I’m a woman and I’ am not offended by his lyrics what so ever. Also I agree with you Carmen it is a race issue because why didn’t he attack the Osbourne’s who are also spokes people for Pepsi. There family has drug abuse history but O'Rilley did not mention them. However can we real trust the opinion and credibility of Bill O’ Rilley? He argues the fact that Ludacris’s lyrics are explicit and degrading to women. Well didn’t he just get charged with sexual harassing an associate producer ( Andrea Mackris) which is a women on his show ( O’ Rilley Factor). One more thing this is for J.C. people choose which type of life style they want for themselves the African - American Men you see going to jail or prison chose to live that street life. If you told me to jump off a bridge I wouldn’t do it, so by Ludacris rapping about what he likes or experiences can’t affect you has an individual unless you want it to affect you.

C'mon man! Rappers aren't introducing us to the violence in their hoods, we been known what's been happening, and if you say that you or your children didn't know until rap came along and exposed you to it, then you must live somewhere in the woods in a cabin with no electricity, 'cause the violence is all over the news, radio, internet. If ol' Billy over here really did care, he would have left Pepsi and Luda alone. The Pepsi commercials would have only let Luda show a good side of himself, but hey, that's right, dont no rich white man want to see a black man that's richer than him, so what does he do? He steals the black mans money.

J.C., you are an ass. the fact that you don't realize that it is a form of expression is the reason that many kids nowadays can't take the stress and pressure that narrowminded hypocrites like you put on society to stop music. The fact is that all these people are doing is causing a disturbance, if you don't support it, I can accept it. But don't insult something because you don't support it or understand it for that matter. You're an uptight prick!

The media of our society can be blamed for advocating the popularity of rap music, and its foundationally corrupt messages. The corrupted themes are so popular amongst American youth, that the media and public authority are easily coercing adolescence into believing that the values portrayed in rap’s context are acceptable to American society. Rap music represents a change in societal values towards a more immoral culture, but the genre of music is also responsible for shaping the attitudes and opinions of teenagers struggling to find their social identities. It is a race issue, nobody in corporate let alone civilized America cares about the "hood life" and we need role models who shoot this "shit" as rappers might say down. Grow up, shoot your guns at yourselves and dont rap to our teenagers about this bullshit. GHETTO aint the real.

How many of you that are complaining about rap music being the cause of the degeneration of American culture are doing any public service, donating any money, etc.? What some of you so called intelligent people don't realize is that rap, much like most other professions, involves presenting a public persona. Furthermore, if you stopped and listened to some of the so called B-side songs on Ludacris or other artists albums you would see that rap is multifacited. What you hear on the radio or see on MTV is not the end all and be all. People are not dying because of rap music. Just like people are not dying because action heros in movies are shooting and killing hundreds of people. People are dying because of a lack of education, money, hope, etc. It is rap music that is degenerating society. It is conservatism that creates laws that are met to keep us in a class society where the rich remain rich and poor stay poor. So stop whining about Ludacris and other rappers because they are the least of our concerns. I teach and my students said something powerful. They are numb to violence not because of rappers but because, in there words, they see it on the NEWS ALL THE TIME. Imagine that . . .

I agree with you about the way you view the issue. I remember, long time ago, Jack London said something like "Everything positive has a negative side; everything negative has a positive side." I also find it interesting to see different points of views and learn useful things in the discussion.

Posted by: Richard Hill at May 22, 2005 08:59 AM

... I think all of you are missing the greatest point of all... while I am a Luda fan... this nigga is not gangsta at all. There are other rappers they could target (The game was raw before he was with GUnit... nobody complained about a cell phone co's decision to endorse him). Luda glorifies violence probably in the minimum... while Snoop was the public figure head for the Crips for some time... while he may not live the life the way he used to, he still claims to have ties with the gang, yet his endorsements remain.

Fact is... to target any rapper, or the music is not smart at all, the aim should be to attack the culture and the roots it is founded in. It's easy for somebody (O'reily) to criticize others (Luda/rappers) for talking about what they know if they/themselves have never had to live it, witness it, or be close to it... they just see what they read in the papers and see in the news, which is always false because journalists don't have the connections to find out what's really goin on in the streets... I.E.: while i don't condone his actions, my friend killed somebody recently, he's in jail. reports said it was over a stolen radio... but anybody who really knew anything knows it was because of an ongoing beef. That shit didn't come from rap... that came from territorial claims and disrespect of bloodlines... rap is just the venue by which we warn white ppl not to get involved...

And Christians are not obligated to support O'Reily in this issue because the music isn't necessarily hurtful... it doesn't edify the spirit, but if you're faith was strong to begin with, then the music wouldn't hurt you... and not others either... and in the worse case scenario... Luda would not be the worse rapper in the world.

Someone previously mentioned that metal music also condones negative behavior.

As a fan of both genres...I would only argue that hip-hop is targeted because it is freely marketed and pumped into the ears of children on a daily basis...in numerous elements. Thus, the reason for the intense scrutiny.

Metal...and some of it is very offensive, crude, negative...it is an underlying niche in our lives.

Crude hip-hop is marketed and nearly idolized.

ludacris is so..... HOTT! man i love ludacris he's like WOAH! sexy man one gud thing is that i have a friend that looks just a little like ludacris but now my friend looks eww... andludacris is hott hott hott. my wish and dream is to atleast meet him in person and that would make my whole lyf gud. but man i have to say one thing ludacris is SEXY and all my friends know that for a fact i love him so.... much well if he has the time email me.

haha a class system where rich stay rich and poor stay poor? that's the cop out attitude rap promotes which is holding down minorities. i'm hispanic, and my father was poor before joining the military and SERVING his country. Rap artists promote the view that the government OWES them something. They milk the welfare system, while liberals "help" them with other people's money. I know too many foreigners who have came to this country with nothing and opened businesses and became succesful entrepreneurs the legal way. It takes hard work, as 2Pac, the only great rapper said, "get off your ass if you wanna be rich"

I'm anticipating a "I have to serve my country and die" response. There are many jobs in the service which are not frontline combat duties. The fact is that rap music portrays a fantasy lifestyle, and the minority youth culture has luxury shoved down their throats until they believe without money they are nothing. Being poor is nothing to be ashamed of, being ashamed of it is. The flashiness of successful rappers slowly wears on young minorites minds until they become ashamed of being poor and turn to drug dealing, gangs, etc. 2Pac in his naive years was liberal, however his mind was so great I believe he would have adopted this stance if he was not tragically killed. He indulged in philosophic texts, and I believe as an intellect he would have matured.

The bottom line is the freedom of expression cannot be violated, however one cannot deny the negative impact of rap music today. No longer are eloquent lyrics from 2Pac captivating people, now it's just a beat with ebonic bullshit over it. Don't get me started on Eminem and his naive, drugged out, warped views.

Don't whine and expect other people to help you. Serve your country, and your country will serve you. Then, with a college education you can achieve anything. As long as minorities complain and remain co-dependent with liberal welfare programs this problem will exist. Liberals pretend they care and BUY the vote of minorities with taxpayers hard earned money. Conservatives promote self-reliance, the door for freedom of the human spirit.

Bill O'Reilly has great reasoning, but I'll conceed that he is too conservative sometimes. However, he is brilliant.

who ever compared the columbine tragedy with metal music makes no sense. First of all because you cant compare this one incident with all the 'niggaz'in the 'hood' puttin caps in their asses, because they are wanna be thugs. Rap music is degradation to society. There is no musicality in rap music, any moron can produce a rap album because all you need is a keyboard and hit a couple keys to make that shit. And you need to sound like a gangsta fool, and learn how to rhyme like a 4 year old kindergardener.

As it goes, white kids are little inferior sons of bitches for buying that shit, and supporting rap.

First of all, I'd like to give props to those that made sense and could actually write english. Secondly, this has nothing to do with religion so you Jesus-lovers can go over there Biggie>=!*

I agree with bill, i like Luda. but people in this country on a majority are so uneducated! How dumb does the majority of the people have to be, i mean its music, Its an expression of ideas of an individual, if you don't like it sorry but get over it you don't have to listen to it! Who cares what these artist say on there records its personal opinion on who buys it, be responsible parents and prevent your children black, white, yellow, purple, or whatever from listening to inappropriate music Rap, punk, Goth, ect. This is freedom of speech people! It is a free country, people can listen or say almost anything they want to make a buck. Bill was expressing his opinion about buying the products, he in noway suggested a boycott. Luda. took it too far with his songs on the latest album.

All of this boils down to what is right and wrong. Parents regardless of the ethnic background should be parents and check what there kids are doing, once adults who cares its there life, you guys on here are stupid, and way to critical, get an advanced education and please stop children (aka high school students) from posting on fourms, till they grow up:)
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ludacris...I love ur music, without your music in my life...i'll be a( ho )lover right now. thanks to you, nate and snoop...and guess what, i call all fags i see around Bill O'reillys'. that's the new name for fags. Bill O'reilly: dick sucking Mo pucker..

I side with many of the arguments posted by J.C. Hip Hop is a very powerful weapon and MC's need to be careful of what they do with it. Hip Hop must not be eliminated, but cleansed and transformed by the power of the true God, Jesus Christ. This is why the media needs to expose rappers that rep for Christ. Examples include Cross Movement Records, Reach Records, and so much more. Ludacris is just one of many rappers that make people think negatively of hip hop music.

Bill is a big sexual harassing monster

i think o'reilly is a wimp..
hes stupid and how can u let people like the ozbournes... but not luda...
stupid 2 face retards...

most of you are fuckin idiots. fuck ludacris, fuck bill o'reilly, and fuck christian rap. time for the real hip hop to take hold. that revolutianary hip hop.

R.B.G. 4 LIFE BITCHES

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O'REILLY: All right. With us now is John Shelby Spong. So I'm basically saying that African-Americans owe loyalty. And this is racist?

JOHN SHELBY SPONG, BISHOP, NEW CHRISTIANITY FOR A NEW WORLD: Well, what you said, it seems to me, was that Al Sharpton and other black people should say that they were better off because they were in America than if they had stayed in Africa.

O'REILLY: Well...

SPONG: And Bill, I sort of grew up of that stuff.

O'REILLY: Hold, it. Here's what I said exactly so that the audience knows. All Americans realize, I guess I was wrong on this, "all Americans realize that African-Americans are much better off in the United States than they would be with their brethren back in Africa." And you think that's a racist statement?

SPONG: Yes, on several levels. I think it's racist in that it doesn't take into consideration what has happened to black Americans in this country, the history of slavery and segregation. It also doesn't take into consideration what the colonial powers have done to Africa over the centuries.

O'REILLY: Bishop, I'm just stunned. All Americans, all right, I say, agree -- and I'm wrong on that, because obviously you don't. All right. You would not say that black Americans are better off in the U.S.A. than they would be if they were in Africa? You say that's an erroneous statement?

SPONG: Bill, when I was a child growing up in North Carolina, one of the ways slavery was justified was to say blacks are so much better off by being brought over here to be civilized and to be made Christians.

O'REILLY: We're not talking about the 19th century. We're talking about 2002. There is no slavery anymore.

SPONG: That's right, but we have the heritage of that. And we have slavery's bastard step-child, segregation, that has been effective in this country and is still effective.

O'REILLY: But we don't have segregation now.

SPONG: Well, you don't legally. You don't legally. But in this country, the black people still need a leg up to get to be equal.

O'REILLY: All right, that's fine. But again, I'm going to go back. Are black Americans not better off living here in the U.S.A., where life expectancy is 76, than in Africa where life expectancy is 49?

SPONG: Well, life expectancy for black Americans is not equal to life expectancy for white Americans.

O'REILLY: It's over 70. It's 49 in Africa. That's more than 20 years difference, bishop.

SPONG: But you cannot go back and say that what has happened in Africa -- we don't know what would have happened in Africa had it not been colonialized.

O'REILLY: I'm dealing with reality. I'm dealing with 2002.

SPONG: I am dealing with reality, too.

O'REILLY: You know, I was very offended by your column. And I think you're way out of base, calling this a racist statement. I deal in facts. And the fact of the matter is that black Americans in the year 2002 are better off in the United States than they would be if they were living in Africa. That is a fact.

SPONG: No, no, you call this a no-spin zone.

O'REILLY: Correct.

SPONG: And that's a spin.

O'REILLY: It's not a spin. It's a fact.

SPONG: Everything is a spin on this program. There's nothing wrong with that. You do it with great style. You're sort of a Rush Limbaugh with perfume.

O'REILLY: Well look, you're living in a dream world, bishop.

SPONG: No, I'm not.

O'REILLY: And if you want to live in that world, that's fine. Now you say "O'Reilly demanded a yes or no answer from Al Sharpton." OK?

SPONG: As you've just done from me.

O'REILLY: No, I didn't. I just said you're living in a dream world. And you are. "To what is regarded as the ultimate test of truth, are black people better off today, today," and you even say that in your column, in America than they would be in Africa? There is no question -- but there's no question that they are. So what are you dragging up the racism thing for? What are you dragging that up for?

SPONG: Well, do you want to be proud of where we are in race relations in this country? I'm proud of some progress we've made, but we've got a long way to go.

O'REILLY: Well, we have a long way to go in every country on earth, all right. There's no good country or perfect country. Everybody works. But here we go. And this is my basic tenet. If you're an African-American, a black American or a Chinese-American, or a Native-American or whatever you are, Irish-American, doesn't matter, you owe your country loyalty. Am I wrong there?

SPONG: No, I don't think you're wrong there, but...

O'REILLY: But that's my basic tenet.

SPONG: No, no, but there's a great big but. Remember, Africans didn't come here voluntarily. Your ancestors and mine did. Your ancestors and mine ancestors came looking for a better life. Blacks came to make your ancestors and my life -- my ancestors have a better life. There's a very big difference. And we need to address that.

O'REILLY: Address it how?

SPONG: Well, I think in all sorts of ways. Affirmative Action programs would help. The voting rights act, which finally gave black people the chance to vote. A wonderful story about how George Wallace stopped campaigning against blacks and started campaigning against Communists because they were 250,000...

O'REILLY: All right. So you're basically saying that America owes black people whatever.

SPONG: Oh, I think we do. But I also think...

O'REILLY: OK. And if you say that black, like I did, that black people owe loyalty to America because of the opportunities, do you know that 80 percent, that black married couples that stay together in America earn 80 percent of what white married couples earn? OK? And it's skewed because most black couples, most black people live in the south where salaries are lower. You're telling me that's not parity there, bishop?

SPONG: No, they don't have parity yet by a long shot.

O'REILLY: OK, so that statistic is bogus?

SPONG: Yes, I think...

O'REILLY: You don't believe that statistic?

SPONG: Well, statistic...

O'REILLY: Even though it comes out of the Census. You, Bishop Spong, don't believe it.

SPONG: No, but if I were say I've got -- statistics can prove anything.

O'REILLY: But that statistic is rock solid.

SPONG: No.

O'REILLY: 80 -- oh, OK, the Census statistic is no good. We'll throw that right out, because you, Bishop Spong, don't believe it. We'll throw that out the window. Come on.

SPONG: I don't think that's the proper statistic to be -- we can take statistics to prove anything.

O'REILLY: You want economic parity? It looks like black, married couples have economic parity to whites, but you don't believe that.

SPONG: I think we've come a long way. I think we've got a long way to go yet.

O'REILLY: All right.

SPONG: And I would be proud of this country when we arrive.

O'REILLY: So will I. I think everybody wants fairness for all Americans. Now I was so disappointed that you raised this racist card, because that is the most bogus argument. I don't -- we've had you on this program many times. And you and I -- you're a very liberal guy. You think that I'm Rush Limbaugh. That's fine. We disagree on many issues, but we respectfully disagree.

SPONG: I think so.

O'REILLY: You throwing in that racist canard here, that racist accusation, that shatters any respect because that's not true.

SPONG: Well, you see, I interpret racism to be a lot broader than you do. I think it's in the very air that we breathe. I think it's like alcohol. I think I am a recovering racist, like persons might be recovering alcoholics. I think you've got to be on guard against racism in your assumptions all the time. I was the bishop in the city of Newark, which is an overwhelmingly black city. And I had to constantly be aware of the things in my past that would come up and continue to distort, not my actions so much as the assumptions that were there. I think racism is a sickness that will take generations, maybe centuries to...

O'REILLY: Well nobody's arguing that. But you, a bishop, a man of God, leveling a racist accusation at me, based upon a comment that says blacks should be loyal to the U.S.A., I mean, that's just -- number one, you're wrong, OK? But number two, it's unfair. It's blatantly unfair to do it.

SPONG: I understand that you think it's wrong, but I don't believe that it is because...

O'REILLY: But you're making a judgment about me. And you don't even know me. You don't know what I do, who I help, and how I deal with people. You just don't know.

SPONG: That's true. But Bill, I only know and your personal persona. Indeed, that's the only way you know me. And I have to judge on that. And it should not surprise you that people are critical. You...

O'REILLY: Oh, I don't mind you being critical, but when you say this is a racist statement and you couldn't back it up here, I guarantee you, I'll send the mail. You're going to get fileted tomorrow.

SPONG: That's OK.

O'REILLY: You can't back it up. It just diminishes you. I know you're a good man, but that charge diminishes you.

SPONG: See, I'll get a lot of mail, too, that will be supportive.

O'REILLY: Maybe.

SPONG: Because we have different audiences.

O'REILLY: And we'll let the audience decide as always.

SPONG: And I expect your audience will be voting in favor of you.

O'REILLY: I hope so, because I have the facts on my side.

SPONG: I don't think so.

O'REILLY: And that's what always matters.

-Now it's obvious what Bill is trying to say here. He is saying blacks should be grateful for America's slavery, inequality, and the need to protest for rights and votes all because their lives would be worse in Africa. You can call me a left winger, but I'm really a right winger. And you can't deny the message here.

Everyone loves to scapegoat social issues on the evolution of music, political extremists such as Bill O'Reilly [oh, I forgot. He's an independent], Rappers, the White Man, Minorities, etc. What we need to look at are our values. No, I'm not speaking about the moral values that the Neo-Con right wing refers to. I'm talking about the value of money toppling the value of human life. Look at how much musicians make compared to teachers and police officers. Who is doing a greater civil duty? If we begin to value these avenues [music, sports, entertainment in general] above all else, the individuals within these loopholes of society have open space to tread and do as they see fit. Use vulgarity, amoral subjectification of people on the basis of sexuality and gender, etc. We need to get our priorities straight as a nation. Pay these people less, and we'll see how much they curse and discriminate in their music. They will no longer be able to live lavishly under their gangster or suburban white boy appeal. Screw the phrase "Moral Values". We need to organize our priorities.

Mo
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That kat JC makes more sense then most of you. Some people are just gluttons for punishment. The worse you treat them the more they love you. The truth is, people like Ludapiss don't give a damn about anybody but themselves. They could really care less about how they effect kids or about the idiots that by their cds and support them, just like the pimp has absolutely no respect for his hoe.

entertainers make so much money because so many people pay them to entertain. its not a very hard equation. teachers will never make as much, did u have fun in your classrooms? would you pay 50 dollars to hear one of your teachers sing? i've had to come to an understanding of this. once you understand, you won't be as angry. but bill o reilly is still silly and ludacris makes me laugh. so end of story.

What is lost in all of this...is that at the very same time Pepsi was distancing itself from Ludacris...they had an add campaign with non other than the Osbournes...the same constant swearing and drug usage as a one former Chris Lova Lova...aka LUDACRIS. Please do not say this is NOT a black and white thing.

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Lets be real everybody. Racism is a never-ending battle. Racism is very much so alive, than as it was 30-40 years ago. Equal Opportunity Acts have changed, however, this will never never erase the amount of hate a human being can have for another. Bill O'Reilly may not express his true feelings because of legalities of Televised networks, but c'mon, if we were to record Bill O'Reilly on his off days, I am willing to bet he would bash every sinlge minority on the planet. Thats real!

Bill likes to impress his personal views upon others. He is what one would consider a complete JERK. He has consistently used racist remarks and he voice his personal prejudices about religious groups and homosexuals. I think that it is disgusting that people like him exist.

P.S. I can almost bet my entire salary that Bill lives in a " restricted" community.